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Thanks for the help and input, really useful! Here's a draft response which I'd appreciate feedback on or if there are any big tweaks to consider:

I am writing to formally contest Penalty Charge Notice issued on 10 March 2025 at High Street (WD). I believe this penalty is invalid for the following reasons:

1. Lack of Clear Location Information

The PCN states the location as "High Street (WD)", which is vague and unhelpful. Additionally, the video evidence provided only shows a nondescript section of road with the caption "LOC6991," which does not confirm the presence of a box junction or provide any meaningful location reference. I request clarification on exactly where the alleged contravention took place.

2. Failure to Demonstrate a Contravention

Having reviewed the video evidence frame by frame, there is no clear indication that my vehicle was stationary within a box junction. At no point are my brake lights illuminated while moving slowly, which suggests that my vehicle did not come to a complete stop. If the council claims otherwise, I request precise frame numbers where they believe this occurred.

3. Subject Access Request (SAR) for Evidence

Under the UK General Data Protection Regulation (UK GDPR), I am making a formal Subject Access Request (SAR) for all data related to this alleged contravention

Please confirm receipt of this request and provide the information within the statutory timeframe.

4. No Clear Indication That I Would Need to Stop

When I entered the box junction, the vehicle in front of me was moving, and there was no stationary traffic ahead. Furthermore, there was no clear indication that pedestrians at a nearby crossing intended to step onto the road at that moment. The vehicle in front only stopped unexpectedly due to these pedestrians crossing, which was beyond my control. Given this, I had no reasonable way to anticipate that I would have to stop within the junction.

Given the lack of clear location details, the absence of conclusive evidence, and the failure to demonstrate a contravention, I request that this penalty be cancelled. If my representation is not accepted, I request a full response addressing each of the points above, particularly regarding the specific evidence relied upon.

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Here's the video:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lgo48tiUzYxpcGxnPPT4uqccfvbosF3d/view?usp=sharing

And the PCN is attached.
If anything else is required, please let me know.


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I've been snapped in the yellow box of a high st. It's a fairly new box on Wanstead High St and placed just ahead of a zebra crossing - which has caused dangerous driving by some when they try to avoid being left in the box through no fault of their own.


When entering the box, the bus in front didn't look like it was about to stop and there was no one on the crossing at that point, so I should have had a clear exit.
Then when a pedestrian has stepped out unexpectedly, the bus has had to stop forcing me to stay in the box. There were no stationary vehicles in front of me when I entered the box.

I have the video from the council which I can share here if it helps. Below is the image they have supplied with the PCN.
The local councillors have already been contacted by locals and have been in touch with highway and parking officers about the new yellow box.
Apparently they have been informed that drivers should not be penalised for stopping to allow pedestrians to cross.

As you can see it's quite a long junction box. After the bus had stopped and I was stuck in the box, I tried to very slowly creep forward so I wasn't at a complete stop for more than 3 seconds.



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