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Thank you all for your valuable input on this PCN.

Since 1st January 2023, there have been 168 PCNs issued for the same location—Royal Albert Way. Of these, 128 appeals were allowed and 40 were refused, resulting in an appeal success rate of 76.19%.

What I find difficult to understand is why some adjudicators continue to refuse appeals, despite the consistent lack of advance warning signs from any approach to Royal Albert Way. The only signage present appears to be the camera enforcement and prohibition signs. As @Incadecent rightly pointed out, by the time drivers see the diagram 619 sign (as shown in the TSRGD), it’s too late to stop safely, and reversing would pose a serious hazard.

I intend to draw on arguments from the successful appeals—especially those that emphasize the absence of advance warning signs indicating that motor vehicles are prohibited on Royal Albert Way from 11 PM onwards


 

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@Enceladus Thanks, yes I've these Video and Image

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Deal All,


I’ve just received a Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) for allegedly failing to comply with a "prohibition on motor vehicles" (contravention code 52m) on Royal Albert Way E16 / Gallions Roundabout E16. The incident is recorded as happening on 25/04/2025 at 23:19.

I was genuinely unaware of any restriction at the time. After receiving the notice, I went back to the location to check for signage—but couldn’t find any clear or visible signs indicating a restriction for motor vehicles. To be thorough, I even recorded a video of my approach and entry onto Royal Albert Way to document what I saw (or didn’t see).

This seems really unfair if the signage isn’t clearly marked, especially for drivers unfamiliar with the area or driving at night. Has anyone else experienced something similar at this location?

Any advice on appealing this would be appreciated.

I have attached PCN and all the council's pictures, videos and the video that I made.

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I received a PCN for a exact same contravention on exactly same location i.e. Royal Albert Way E16 A1020.

However, I am uncertain whether I saw any relevant prohibition sign at the time. The only sign I noticed was the 40 miles per hour speed limit sign. I went back to the location this morning to inspect the area, but I could not find any motor vehicle prohibition sign, as mentioned in the PCN.

In this same post regarding this matter, it was stated that the sign is present but "too deep" for clear visibility. I'm unclear as to what that means, as I failed to see any sign at all.

Could you kindly provide further clarification or evidence of the exact location of the prohibition sign in question?

I will be posting my case here too in due course
KS

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Hi Again everyone,

Thank you for taking the time to respond.

I was unaware that restrictions on a single yellow line remain in effect on bank holidays, but I now realize I was mistaken.

Please find attached the charge certificate. I will make an effort to locate the original PCN that was placed on the windscreen.

I had expected to receive a PCN by post, as I had assumed—incorrectly—that single yellow line restrictions were not enforced on bank holidays.

I sincerely appreciate everyone's assistance and input on this matter.
K

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Hmmm

not sure what else can I share here apart from a charge certificate.


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thanks stamfordman!!!

formal representation on which grounds?

 

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Thanks Anderson,



I did not challenge after this latest NTO. attached as NTO1 & NTO2


Back in November 2024, After receiving the Charge Certificate, I wrote an email to the council arguing that I never received the original PCN by post. Since the posted PCN would have included a web code, I was unable to make a representation or challenge the penalty online, to which they replied to fill a online form but that didn't go anywhere.
email correspondence with Newham council attached.

I am still wondering why, after the Charge Certificate was cancelled, the PCN was not reissued with the option to pay the reduced amount of £65. Given that the original PCN was not received by post, I expected it to be resent at the discounted rate rather than being escalated to a Notice to Owner demanding the full £130.

Many thanks


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Deal all,

On August 26, 2024 (a bank holiday), I parked on a single yellow line and received a Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) stuck to my car windshield. However, I never received a PCN by post, which I was expecting.

Later, on November 5, 2024, I received a Charge Certificate. I wrote to the council explaining that I never received the original PCN, but they refused to consider my case. I then appealed to the Traffic Enforcement Centre (TEC) on the grounds that I never received the PCN. The TEC canceled the Charge Certificate, and I expected to receive a PCN with the reduced penalty of £65.

Instead, I have now received a Notice to Owner demanding £130. What are my options at this stage?














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