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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Help! Ulez fines for a car I sold 18 months ago!
« on: February 25, 2025, 08:21:52 pm »I woke up today to a no-reply text from Bristow & Suitor informing me I owed £590 to TfL. After calling around between TfL and B&S, I found out that it’s for a ULEZ fine dating to August 2024—but I had sold the car in July 2023.
I hadn’t received any previous correspondence about this fine because I had moved from the address where the car was registered.
It turns out that, as this was only the second car I’d ever sold, I hadn’t properly filled out the V5 when selling it, and the new owner never re-registered it in his name using the green slip. So, as far as the DVLA was concerned, I was still the registered keeper when the fines were issued.
Right now, I have two fines:
• £590 with Bristow & Suitor
• £250 still with TfL
TfL advised me to write to them, B&S, and the DVLA with proof that I had sold the vehicle and was not the driver at the time of the penalties.
The proof I have:
• Original V5 with the new owner’s address and details
• A written receipt, signed by both parties, confirming the sale on 5/08/23
• Text messages with the buyer confirming he didn’t receive the V5 and sold it on using only the green slip
• Messages on Facebook Marketplace where different people have listed the car for sale after I sold it
• Group chat messages with pictures of the cash, confirming I had sold it
I completely understand this is my mistake for not sending off the V5 myself. But I cannot afford £900+ in TfL charges for a car I wasn’t driving or even owned at the time.
I also understand that since the V5 was never updated, I am technically still the registered keeper when these PCNs were issued.
My Questions:
• Is there any way to resolve this without having to pay the fines?
• Can I backdate the sale, even though the latest V5 was only issued in September 2024?
• Has anyone successfully fought a case like this?
I’d really appreciate any advice on the best way forward!