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followed my car navigation
Oh dear ! How many times to we see this. Never, ever, rely on satnavs in London unless you look out for signs barring progress.  Do you know what the "Flying Motorbike" signs mean ?
Yes, you've made a fair point. Perhaps best to just settle the PCN as it does look a bit hopeless...

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What was your approach to the restricted street, a left turn, a right turn, or head-on ?

Head-on indeed, coming from the rail bridge near Park Village East. I was on my way to Mornington Crescent and followed my car navigation without noticing the sign at all.

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Please could you advise whether there may be any ground to appeal the below PCN where I accidentally drove through a prohibited zone at 9.03am at 9 February?

https://imgpile.com/p/NBY7feB

Google maps location:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/9ZaKLiQam7dYyfSH6

Many thanks for your advice.

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Thank you both very much for your sharing your knowledge on the process, I would never been able to see this myself.

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Yes, the appointment was confirmed by whatsapp

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I would like to provide an update, as I just received the Notice to Owner in today's mail. Could someone advise what angle we could try in order to make a case?

My apologies for the rather large pictures...I didn't manage to shrink the format!

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Thanks a lot. I will check again in a week from now. Will I not risk that the fine goes up to £130 and even higher if I don’t pay before the date mentioned?

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thank you very much...I have tried but don't see such a section on the Westminster parking page. I can see in the reponse to my challenge that I should received the notice to owner within 14 days of this letter (14 February), which takes me to 28 February. The Westminster page still says "The amount outstanding on the Penalty Charge Notice will increase to £195.00 on Sat, 19 Apr 2025. Please pay £65.00 now."


Option 2 - Make a Formal Representation
If you do not pay within 14 days from the date of this letter, the full charge of £130 will fall due. If you have not paid before
the end of this 14 day period or the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of the PCN, whichever is the later,
then we will issue a Notice to Owner (NtO) to the registered keeper of the vehicle. The NtO will allow the registered keeper
to make full payment or a formal Representation, appealing against the issue of the PCN; the procedure for doing so will be
explained on the NtO. Any new evidence can be presented with the formal Representation.


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I still have not receive the notice to owner yet...should I just wait for this document to arrive?

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Thank you very much @cp8759 for your response on Wednesday this week. The notice to owner should be delivered by post at my home address right?

I definitely have evidence of the viewing appointment, but only via the exchange of whatsapp messages.

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The Westminster website says now “The amount outstanding on the Penalty Charge Notice will increase to £195.00 on Sat, 19 Apr 2025. Please pay £65.00 now.” Does this mean that the approach we had envisaged doesn’t work?

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hi all,

I just got a response from Westminster with a rejection notice. The letter says that I have a further 14 days from the 28/02/2024 to pay the fine of £65

https://ibb.co/5h3vSyyp

However, the City of Westminster website says:

"The amount outstanding on the Penalty Charge Notice will increase to £130.00 on Mon, 3 Mar 2025. Please pay £65.00 now."

May this be a ground to challenge the case?

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Thank you very much. That's done and I took a screenshot. I will provide an update once I hear back from the council.

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If I use the reason 'the alleged contravention did not occur' at the Westminster appeals website, I'm asked to select further details by picking one of the below reasons:

At the time I am supposed to have been in contravention, I was loading and unloading
The restriction that I am supposed to have ignored was not signed
At the time I am supposed to have been in contravention, the restriction did not apply
At the time I am supposed to have been in contravention, I was elsewhere
I was instructed by a police officer to do this

Pleese can anyone advice which one to pick?

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Thanks a lot cp…unfortunately we didn’t discuss that. Shall I just state “the alleged contravention did not occur”?

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