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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 51J Failing No entry. Phyppe way / whoops cross road e11
« on: February 05, 2025, 03:31:16 pm »Is this thread related to one you have already started ? If so, post it in there and ask a moderator to delete this one.
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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / 51J Failing No entry. Phyppe way / whipps cross road e11 Waltham forest council
« on: February 05, 2025, 03:12:25 pm »
Hi.
Sorry having issues with images 😬
Basically I took the wrong exit on a roundabout and ended up on the a114 Phyppe way driving away from the a104.
I needed to turn round but couldn't as I saw a no right turn sign for a bus lane. So I continued along the road and saw another junction, the road was clear so I turned right as there was no "no right turn" sign on this junction.
As the road was clear I quickly turned right. As I entered the road, noticed it was a bus lane, and I saw a "no entry" sign. Stopped , reversed and pulled out the bus lane without going and further and rejoined phyppe road. I then got a ticket.
I replied stating that there was a no right turn sign for the first turning but no sign for this turning. I also argued that I was unable to see the no entry sign until I turned right as the sign was facing away from me and could not see it until I committed to my manoeuvre. I pointed out that there should be a no right turn on the rear of the no entry sign. And this is the reply. How can I appeal this as it's not fair as I couldn't see the no entry until after I turned right and didn't want to stop in the middle of a main road. And also I didn't continue to travel along the bus lane..
Their reply states that There are clear signs " but they face away from the direction I was heading..
Thanks
"https://imgur.com/a/dFm0c5U"
"https://imgur.com/a/Nqrzl3f"
Sorry having issues with images 😬
Basically I took the wrong exit on a roundabout and ended up on the a114 Phyppe way driving away from the a104.
I needed to turn round but couldn't as I saw a no right turn sign for a bus lane. So I continued along the road and saw another junction, the road was clear so I turned right as there was no "no right turn" sign on this junction.
As the road was clear I quickly turned right. As I entered the road, noticed it was a bus lane, and I saw a "no entry" sign. Stopped , reversed and pulled out the bus lane without going and further and rejoined phyppe road. I then got a ticket.
I replied stating that there was a no right turn sign for the first turning but no sign for this turning. I also argued that I was unable to see the no entry sign until I turned right as the sign was facing away from me and could not see it until I committed to my manoeuvre. I pointed out that there should be a no right turn on the rear of the no entry sign. And this is the reply. How can I appeal this as it's not fair as I couldn't see the no entry until after I turned right and didn't want to stop in the middle of a main road. And also I didn't continue to travel along the bus lane..
Their reply states that There are clear signs " but they face away from the direction I was heading..
Thanks
"https://imgur.com/a/dFm0c5U"
"https://imgur.com/a/Nqrzl3f"
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