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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Contravention 31J - Piccadilly Junction with Berkeley Street.
« on: Today at 03:16:26 pm »
I think there may be a flaw in the wording of the PCN.

The law requires the PCN to state (amongst other things):

"(iii)that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice;

(iv)that if the penalty charge is paid before the end of the period of 14 days beginning with the date of the notice, the amount of the penalty charge will be reduced by the specified proportion;

(v)that, if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the 28 day period, an increased charge may be payable;"

Clearly, in that context, the 28 date period in part (v) is 28 days beginning with the date of the notice.

Your PCN states "If the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of service of the Notice, an increased charge of £240.00 (less money paid) may be payable".

Date of service is different to the date of the notice (presumed to be 2 business days different by law).  As such the PCN does not comply with the legal requirements and ought to be unenforceable.

@Hippocrates is the go to member when it comes to technical deficiencies - see what he thinks.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN 31J – Yellow Box Junction – Right Turn – Westwood Hill / Lawrie Park Road
« on: January 13, 2026, 04:29:51 pm »
Include also the fact that the PCN was served out of time and is thus unenforceable.

Date of alleged contravention = 13 December 2025
Last date for service = 9 January 2026
Presumed date of service = 12 January 2026

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Fine 2mts late Westminster, Code 31, Entering & Stopping in Box Junction: Bayswater road jn with Westbourne Street
« on: January 05, 2026, 12:25:18 am »
Does look faded. Don't forget to include the issue with the PCN wording which makes it non compliant with the law.

Key thing is to get a notice of rejection from Westminster as otherwise you can't take it further.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN by TfL that doesn't make any sense to me!!!
« on: January 05, 2026, 12:20:40 am »
What were you loading?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Fine 2mts late Westminster, Code 31, Entering & Stopping in Box Junction: Bayswater road jn with Westbourne Street
« on: December 30, 2025, 09:31:59 am »
Not the same thing. Your PCN seems to have been served weeks after the date of notice (albeit as John has pointed out there is a legal presumption it reaches you two business days after posting).

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Fine 2mts late Westminster, Code 31, Entering & Stopping in Box Junction: Bayswater road jn with Westbourne Street
« on: December 29, 2025, 11:42:49 pm »
I think the PCN misstates the period after which the council may increase the penalty charge from £160 to £240.

Under the LLA 2003, the PCN must state (amongst other things):

(iii)that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice;

(iv)that if the penalty charge is paid before the end of the period of 14 days beginning with the date of the notice, the amount of the penalty charge will be reduced by the specified proportion;

(v)that, if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the 28 day period, an increased charge may be payable;

Your PCN states that the date from which an increased charge may be payable is 28 days from date of service of the PCN, instead of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 31J -TFL- Beckton Roundabout/A406/A13 - Entering and stopping In a box Junction when prohibited
« on: December 19, 2025, 08:33:02 pm »
Still worth calling to ask for the footage. I've seen adjudications won on the basis of TFL not providing the footage in a usable manner (i.e. DVDs are a bit obsolete). But you won't be able to argue that if you never even asked for it.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: 31J -TFL- Beckton Roundabout/A406/A13 - Entering and stopping In a box Junction when prohibited
« on: December 18, 2025, 08:58:30 pm »
Looks more like a TFL PCN to me - in which case, yes, there's no automatic access to the video footage.

You need to asap given TFL a call to request access to this - they will post it to you on a DVD.  They usually offer to put the PCN timeline on hold while they do this so make sure to double check about this when you call, especially with the slower post at this time of year.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Waltham Forest: 31 Entering and stopping in a Junction: Box Hoe St/Selborne Rd E17
« on: December 18, 2025, 12:37:12 pm »
To expand a bit on Hippocrates' answer, there's no legally mandated time limit for the council to respond, but if it takes more than three months and they reject your representations, the tribunal adjudicator is likely to rule it as an unreasonable delay if you take it that far and accept your appeal (assuming there aren't sufficient mitigating circumstances for the council behind the delay).

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Please help with unfair speeding ticket
« on: December 15, 2025, 11:17:09 pm »
Drivers fined after speed camera issue across major A-roads and motorways | UK News | Sky News https://news.sky.com/story/drivers-fined-after-speed-camera-issue-across-major-a-roads-and-motorways-13483868

[mod edit: The next person to helpfully post another link to the same story, without indicating what new information that outlet's parroting the same press release brings to the table, as regards the OP's case. will be taken outside and shot]

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Private parking tickets / Re: UKPC Parking Charge Appeal
« on: December 11, 2025, 10:42:16 am »
I've asked for a copy of the OP's appeal correspondence and will post it up if it's forthcoming.

The resolution of the NtK is poor and quite blurred upon zooming so I'll try and get a revised version of that too.

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Private parking tickets / Re: UKPC Parking Charge Appeal
« on: December 11, 2025, 08:49:49 am »
The OP asked for my help to share her documents - please see below:










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Private parking tickets / Re: Urgent Advice Needed: Hospital Parking Fines Escalated to Debt Collectors - How to Appeal or Minimise?
« on: December 06, 2025, 02:37:21 pm »
I think this will need to be moved to the private parking tickets forum

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: PCN 31j from Hillingdon council, Yellow box junction of Park road/Harefield road.
« on: December 02, 2025, 09:34:03 pm »
That link won't work without the PCN number and vehicle registration. Best for you would be to link to a copy of the PCN so it can be checked for errors which would render it void.  But if that's beyond your ability, just provide the PCN number and registration for now.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Yellow Junction Box PCN - Goodmayes Lane
« on: December 02, 2025, 10:42:43 am »
If you want us to comment on the video evidence, we'll need to see it (or have access to it).

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