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The accompanying letter is not what should go with that form. That is the letter that would accompany the original Claim, as it clearly says so.

I suggest you immediately call the CNBC on 0300 123 1056 and state the following:
Following your advice (thank you as always), I sent the email to the Judgments inbox as the CNBC was unable to provide a specific name or contact for the relevant person. I also followed up by phone earlier today, given the approaching 3rd May deadline, and was advised to proceed by submitting an N244 form as they could not assist with escalating or ensuring the email was reviewed in time.

Would you agree this is now the most appropriate next step, given their response?

If so, I’d be grateful for any guidance on completing the N244 — particularly what to include in the witness statement and how best to reference the procedural error and CPR 3.1(7) in the application.

Many thanks again for your continued support.

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Update: Mediation has now been scheduled for 6th May.

The process seems straightforward based on the documentation provided. Am I right in thinking I just need to prepare a brief summary of the defence and confirm my position to settle at £0, as previously advised? If there’s anything else I should be aware of or prepare for, I’d be very grateful for any tips or guidance.

Also, I noticed on MCOL that the full defence document I submitted by email isn’t visible. I did receive an acknowledgment email confirming receipt, but under the “Defence” section it just states: “See document attached in email sent under separate cover. Subject = [claim ref].” Is this normal?

Thanks again for all the support.

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All I have received are these two pages, which are back to back, with one side dated 3rd April 2025. There is no claim form appended to this letter dated 3rd April 2025 and I have received no other correspondence prior to this from the court house, which includes any document with the password to log on to the claim online.

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Hi all,

I've just received a Judgment for Claimant (in default), which has come as a complete surprise as I never received the original Money Claim. From what I’ve read on the forums, it seems I may still be able to challenge this via an N244 application notice?

I will share more background regarding the original alleged offence shortly, but in the meantime, I’d really appreciate some guidance on any deadlines I need to be aware of or any immediate steps I should take—such as contacting the court office, for example. Thanks in advance for any advice—just want to make sure I act quickly and correctly.


Private parking tickets / UK CPM Parking PCN – No Permit – Bow, London

Key Dates:
·          Alleged Offence: 19/02/2024
·          Money Claim Issue: unknown as never received
·          Judgement for Claimant (in default) issue: 03/04/2025
·          Payment Deadline: 03/05/2025 (one month)






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Whichever firm of incompetent bulk litigators they are using. I really can't be bothered reading back through the thread. So, if they're using Gladstones, copy them into the email. If they're using DCB Legal, copy them into the email instead. It's not rocket science.

Sorry if i came across as a pedant - it was a genuine clarification on my end as I am not yet familiar with all the antagonists. Thanks for confirming and I very much appreciate the ongoing advice and support  :)

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Usual male bovine excrement from the incompetents at Gladstones...
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When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.

I think the above should have glad stones rather than DCB legal? I ask as DCB legal have asked for a DCB legal reference so wondered it that was the cause for confusion? Or do DCB have another role here...

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When it says that a copy must be sent to the claimant, that means their legal representative, which is this case is Gladstones. If they have sent anything it you by email, respond to that email address.
thanks - will do so.

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Usual male bovine excrement from the incompetents at Gladstones. Mediation has been a mandatory requirement since May 2024. Once you have submitted your own N180 Directions Questionnaire (DQ) you will receive a mediation telephone appointment. This is a complete waste of time but the only mandatory element is to actually "attend" the call. It is not part of the judicial process and no judge or lawyers are involved. You simply off to settle for £0 and it will be over in minutes.

You should check your MCOL history to see when your own N180 DQ form has been sent. You don't have to actually wait for the physical form to arrive in the post. Just follow these instructions and have yours ready to send when you notice that yours is on the way, or you have already received it:

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Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.

Thanks you as always and I have now filled this in per instructions and sent it to the email addresses advised. I note that I am meant to send a copy to the claimant..  should I just attach a copy in a reply to Gladstones's email where they sent their own N180?

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Usual male bovine excrement from the incompetents at Gladstones. Mediation has been a mandatory requirement since May 2024. Once you have submitted your own N180 Directions Questionnaire (DQ) you will receive a mediation telephone appointment. This is a complete waste of time but the only mandatory element is to actually "attend" the call. It is not part of the judicial process and no judge or lawyers are involved. You simply off to settle for £0 and it will be over in minutes.

You should check your MCOL history to see when your own N180 DQ form has been sent. You don't have to actually wait for the physical form to arrive in the post. Just follow these instructions and have yours ready to send when you notice that yours is on the way, or you have already received it:

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Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
.."

• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.

Thank you. My N180 has not yet been sent so will keep an eye out and follow per your instructions.

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I received the following email from the Claimant's solicitors (Gladstones) with a N180 form appended. I am not sure if any action is required so grateful for any advice. Happy to append the form if needed


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Thanks. It keeps me off the streets. 8)
Which helps the rest of us stay on the streets - poetic (sort of)!

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They will reject and I am more than happy to represent you if/when necessary.
Thank you and I will continue to be grateful for your assistance  :)

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Technically, the deemed sate of service is later; but...

1. Take a screenshot of their grounds page and keep for later.

2. Dear Greenwich, I require you to consider my informal challenge as formal representations against the EN.

Please cancel.


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(I have to say their evidence is appalling.)
Ah I see. I haven submitted my representations and I thank you as always for your advice. Will update once I receive a response.

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Here is the defence and link to the draft order and relevant transcripts that go with it. You only need to edit the claimant name (as it appears on the N1SDT Claim Form), your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order. At the end of this post I provide a link to a Word format document that has everything as a single document that you can edit and then export as a single PDF file.

When you're ready you send all the documents as PDF attachments (ideally as a single PDF with the defence, 2 pages, the draft order, 1 page and the transcripts, each about 4 pages as a single PDF document) in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of [claimant]v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

[Claimant]

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant cites the cases of CEL v Chan 2023 [E7GM9W44] and CPMS v Akande 2024 [K0DP5J30], which are persuasive appellate decisions. In these cases, claims were struck out due to identical failures to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a). Transcripts of these decisions are attached to this Defence.

5. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4.(1)(a). The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Failed to explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

6. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence

CEL v Chan Transcript

CPMS v Akande Transcript

Defence, Draft Order and Chan & Akande Transcripts in a single MS Word format. Can also be opened and used by Apple users with Pages.
thank you very much. Email sent. Will keep the forum updated

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Ai to that! Ai=three-toed sloth.
So EN has arrived... grateful for any advice on the next steps.

Date of issue: 07/03/2025
Representation deadline: 04/04/2025




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