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Ah thanks CP! I wish I saw this earlier - submitted my tribunal claim yesterday and only saw your post today. I think it asks if I have a representative and I selected I will be representing myself so not sure if it can be changed.

Also to add, they did actually send me a charge certificate but prematurely. From what I understand it is from the date or service of the notice of rejection but they sent it as if the letter was served on the day it was written which isn’t right. Let’s see if it changes anything, I added that to the tribunal objection and the original issue of the sign not being visible.

If this appeal is lost, do you know if I will need to pay the original charge of the PCN or the discounted? I can’t remember

Hello, posted this in the old Pepipoo forum so just need help. Sent an appeal in against the original PCNs, and received a notice of rejection. Wanting to know what else I could add to the appeal to make it stronger if anyone could help please!

Original posts below:

Post one:

Hi everyone. I have scoured the forums and I think I might have a case similar to the other 52M prohibitions on these 2 streets but don’t fully understand if the wording has changed from previous PCNs - and if the previous representations to the PCN being invalid due to the wording will apply here. Can someone help please?

For context this was a few mins to midnight, I didn’t see the signs, needed to get to the pharmacy that was the only one open at this time. What I did see was the pedestrian only sign when coming up from Cambridge road and turning right on station parade, which led me to go left at that junction and carry on down to the roundabout near the pub, then realised there’s no parking so I did a u-turn and came back to Cambridge road. Pharmacy actually shut at 12 midnight so was in a bit of a rush. Annoying that one road is actually 2 different road names, and both have the same restriction, which I got stung twice for!

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Reps:

Dear London Borough of Barking and Dagenham,

I challenge liability for PCNs BZ99290982 and BZ99293120 on the basis of inadequate signage. It was pitch black and the signs were not illuminated, contrary to the mandatory requirements for diagram 616 signs. It follows that the alleged contravention did not occur and the penalty charges must be cancelled.

Yours faithfully,

Post 2:

ve got a reply from Barking and Dagenham - a bit odd. They cancelled one out of goodwill and rejected the other one.

Will I still stick to the same reason that the sign was not following the regulations, regardless of what they have said? CCTV doesn’t give the same view as what you would see while driving so they can’t surely rely on that?

(Will post pics soon)