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I did in fact try on 2 separate occasions, on hold for under 1 hour and then call was terminated automatically.I was checking if there was another way, like an official email address or similar where I could log the request in writing and email the mitigation paperwork at the same time (so the request is lodged in time).I’m dreading it but will of course try calling again tomorrow, failing getting through to someone who can help - it seems plan b would be to rush to submit?

Thank you both@NewJudge - I will reply to you shortly, thank you.While we consider the approach, could you please advise if there any rapid mechanism (direct email address, phone number) where I can make contact to the relevant body/authority in the morning to extend the deadline for response (which currently lapses tomorrow) as I have good reasons for being unable to respond in time (being in hospital for 3 weeks during the time the paperwork was posted). I don't think this request would be seen as unreasonable as the Court would understand that sufficient time is needed and in indeed equitable, for the accused to have the time that was lost due to the mitigation in order to make a considered plea, given the criminality and seriousness of the offence. Thus I would be most grateful for any direction on this as I cannot find any guidance online, nor on the paperwork received how to request a time extension (the reasons for which I can document). Thank you

Thank you for clarifying Andy, and I understand the punitive outcomes you state much better now. But forgive me, my comprehension on the other parts is not to clear, for example, the pleading I make at this juncture is crucial to any eventual outcome. I know it’s asking a lot, but would you be so kind to explain the best and worst case scenarios for:-pleading not guilty now  or-pleading guilty nowMy objective in all of this is of course to avoid penalty points on at all costs on my license(as it will price me out of vehicle ownership full stop due to insurance premiums and thus cause immense hardship), and in lieu, to negotiate if possible in whichever way, a heavy fine if that can be considered the “quid pro quo”. Happy to also instruct a suitable solicitor or DA barrister is advised given the slight complexity of the case, if you think it may be helpful to my overriding objective.Now I fully agree that it is simply my belief I wasn’t speeding rather than concrete evidence, and my personal circumstances at the time of the incident. are a bit delicate to fully disclose on a public forum (happy to DM if helpful) but essentially, at the time of the offence I became medically unwell during the drive and something occurred (which I can elaborate privately if necessary) which caused me to slow down my speed and seek out a place to stop by the roadside, but being a fast moving 3 lane carriageway there was no opportunity to do so near where I experienced the issue. Moments later I saw the blue lights and pulled over in a nearby bus stop as directed, but the fact that I recall slowing down and not speeding up (!) is root issue I have the with level of speed recorded by the police which I cannot comprehend. They have provided all the calibration in the SJPN wherein the difficulty lies, but my genuine belief is I was not speeding but then I mistakenly thought the road speed was 50 or 60 as I was unfamiliar with that stretch of flyover but what was recorded by the police would not have been my speed at 73, nowhere near. My medical supporting evidence helpfully references this incident and is written by a senior consultant whose care I am under. I am hoping this will be sufficient mitigation (plus my hospital discharge summary which has a helpful chronology) - the issue is whether to deploy all of this information (plus my own narrative under the free text section of the online form) under a “guilty” or “not guilty” plea for which I would be grateful for more direction.On the SP30 last year November, I just double checked the paperwork and you are correct - it was 35 in 30 from a fixed Gatso. In 20 years, not a single point or violation and in a space of 1 year, one offence and one alleged offence, not great luck but I do not routinely speed and thus have held a clean license for the most part over 2 decades.Sorry for the long reply, and thank you for any further guidance, the sheer stress of it is causing further medical issues which I hope I can dial back.

Thank you Andy for responding promptly, much appreciated.You are correct of course, however, I want to provide an extensive response in the online box (which is limited to 5,000 characters it seems) surrouding the stop and also documented medical supporting evidence which I now have, and the culimination of all of this led to my eventual hospitalisation recently. It is all connected but the fact remains, I do not believe the speed recorded is accurate.My concern in all of this is not so much the financial penalty (as it is capped from my understanding), but the resulting points on my license, which I took the liberty to obtain some online insurance quotes using my existing 3 points and adding on 6 more to ascertain the price increase in the future. The net effect is an additional £8k per year in car insurance costs which would price me out of vehicle ownership and thus be hugely detriemental in being able to support and transport my young children.Given this additional context, could you please advise on the implications for both plea options (guilty and not guilty), the likely points in each scenario, and whether submitting substantial mitigation might result in a fine rather than points? Would this outcome be more achievable with a specific plea?

Hello All,While in hospital, I received a Single Justice Procedure Notice (SJPN) which I recently amongst more than 50 letters of built-up post, weeks after it posted. For context, I was admitted via A&E on Thursday 3rd October, and the "Posting Date" on the SJPN states Wednesday 9th October. I was discharged from hospital late on Saturday 19th October. On discharge, I was put on strong steroid medication amongst other meds and not really in a fit state of health, physically or mentally, to review the extensive 24-page SJPN bundle, let alone, being to draft and appropriate and considered plea/response and put together supporting evidence.The deadline to plead "guilty" or "not guilty" is tomorrow, 30th October by which I have make representations. I also have a good medical reason at that time (which I could not disclose to the officer due to sheer embarrasment, but this is now supported by a letter from my Consultant in charge of my care for a Chronic condition). I hasten to add though, I do not believe I was speeding, regardless.Could someone please advise, given the above circumstances, how I can extend the time to respond? I called the Court today per the number on the letter and after almost 1 hour on hold, the line was disconnected. I cannot see anywhere else online the procedure, if one exsits, to request an extension of time due to being incapacitated in hospital, so I would be most grateful for some timely advice from this forum.For context on the alleged offence itself, I was stopped at the road side by Police who used a Speed Pro Laser 4 Radar Gun, hiding in layby. This was a fast moving, 3-lane carriageway (totalling 6 lanes across both side of the metal central reservation) around midnight. I do not belive for a second this was my speed and I have clean driving license for the past 20 years (save for 3 points I stupidly received last year from a fixed camera for doing 34 in a 30, and as I had loan car from the dealership registered to them, the paperwork took months ages to fianlly arrive to my address and when I applied for a speed awareness course, being the first offence in 20 years, it was later denied as "being out of time" and I was automatically given points instead). At the roadside, I made no comment to the police, this was back in May, and some 5 months later, I have been served this paperwork and do not fully recall the incident as I was somewhat flustered but genuinely believe the speed capture is erroneus as I would never travel at the speed. However, SJPN includes the officer's witness statement as well as pictures of the speed gun showing "73 mph" and two pictures of some Truvelo calibration which states as being taken at the roadside in the description. Regardless, can these devices be wrong on their readout??I am at a loss as to what to do and would be most grateful for member's advice on how best to approach all of this quickly, firstly how to extend the response deadline based on medical mititgation, and secondly, what the criteria is for pleading "not guilty", and on balance any practical advice? I am pretty shaken up by all of this, I have two young toddlers to take care of and insurance premiums are sky high as they are and my driving license is integral to supporting the family. Are there any scenarios where you can pay a higher fine in lieu of points, for example?Thank you for any assistance