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Re: "only if you are prepared to risk the discount as Newham will likely refuse and only the tribunal is truly independent.
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I am slightly confused here as to what are the steps.

It says on the PCN that they will allow discount for 14 days from rejection notice.

Just to clarify: Do you mean going to the tribunal after rejection notice, and that would remove the discount?

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unsure what the outcome of the above was.
If it is worth challenging, can you please help me draft the challenge? I am happy to draft initial version if that is useful?

cc: @stamfordman, @mrmustard

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Apologies for the confusion. I have re-uploaded the photos here.

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Hi All,

Parked in Stratford from 7pm - 8:30pm on 28th June. PCN issued at 7:27 pm.

The PCN mentioned this is due to parking without a valid permit, but does not mention anything about event day. This seems to be the only possibility as otherwise it would not be a violation.

The board does not provide any information about event days, or where to find that information.

1. The council website says "We advertise the date of the next event day on signs at the entrance to each of the RPZs." But I did not notice anything and the PCN also does not show that as evidence.
 The council also claims that "It’s a driver’s responsibility to be aware of event dates so you know when parking is restricted."

The route I took is this.

PCN Photos: https://imgur.com/a/rWX0H5N

Council's photos also do not show any information about event day signage.


Details:
PCN: PN22983168
VRM: LT71GXU
Street View: https://maps.app.goo.gl/uUCv7BnogQv6LBw88

Similar case (but code 30)

Any advice and assistance in drafting challenge would be appreciated.
Thanking you in advance.


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Thank you very much - let me know if you need any other information / want me to draft it.

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Another question I had was:


It states "If we receive your representation within the discount period and your representation is rejected, we will give you a further opportunity to pay at the discounted rate."




If I have 4 days remaining - does that mean, if I lose, I will get 4 days or another 14 days for the 50% discount? I am concerned if I miss the notice/letter, there might miss the deadline for 50% discount.

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The options for challenge  have the following options:

  • I was not the owner of the vehicle at the time of the contravention.
  • The vehicle was taken without my consent.
  • We are a hire firm and the person hiring the vehicle had signed a statement accepting liability.
  • The penalty charge exceeded the amount applicable in the circumstances of the case.
  • There was no contravention of an order, failure to comply with an order or failure to comply with an indication on a sign.
  • Other grounds.

I was considering using the second last option:
If I select that, I get the following:


Please explain why you think there was no contravention of a traffic order or why there was no failure to drive the vehicle in a way shown on the sign.

Please attach evidence to support your representations (if applicable)


What cannot be used:
https://www.redbridge.gov.uk/parking/penalty-charge-notices/grounds-for-not-accepting-a-challenge-or-appeal-for-a-pcn/

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Hi All,

Thank you for taking time to review this.


I took a Bus,taxi-ONLY-road by mistake and have been issued a PCN for it. The PCN: (https://imgur.com/a/BNCKAiy)

Going back and analysing the road on Street View, it seems:

  • The main road suddenly converts into a Bus-ONLY Road, without adequate warning signages - the only way is to take a the narrow off-road from the main road to circumvent this. Otherwise we are stuck in the road which becomes a bus lane suddenly without able to move out of it (https://maps.app.goo.gl/Qqe9rmKJcv1BuHg37)
    After this sign, (which itself is small and confusing), the next sign is on the road which is after the leaving road, and is too late to correct.
  • The sign only visible for people already on Clements Road and is not visible from approaching Clements Road From Kenneth Road (https://maps.app.goo.gl/cdNvdj65vN91uimo9)
    Once I realised I was on the wrong lane, it was too late. I took a left out of this street immediately after this picture was taken.
  • Location where the camera has captured the image: (https://maps.app.goo.gl/YfqJFFg1rKapBoUi7)
    This is too late as it is not possible to make a safe exit at this point. This is also not a lane where one can move over to the next one. 


Also, the first image seems to not have been captured well - it appears black on the print out I am provided with.


Let me know if you need more details - I am happy to provide more context if that helps.
PCN: AF99339121 Website: https://my.redbridge.gov.uk/parkingpcn/

Thanking you in advance

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