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The Flame Pit / Re: Proceeding ahead if traffic light on your back turned red
« on: Today at 11:08:50 am »
Quote from: oscar21 on Today at 10:12:17 am
The offence is crossing the stop line on a red light, so if you are already past the stop line on green then no offence as far as I know, however driving headlong into traffic that has now got a green light going the other way could possibly land you in trouble.
Indeed, and the offence is committed if any part of the car crosses the line. It can be difficult, if not impossible, for a driver to see whether the rear bumper has cleared the line.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Urgent Advice - Can I ask for a Motorway SACourse rather than points (only 2 days to respond)
« on: June 08, 2026, 06:31:59 am »
The description of the Motorway Awareness Course says "This course is only offered for speed offences where a variable speed limit is exceeded – speed offences detected where the national speed limit applies are referred to the National Speed Awareness Course)."

So the likely answer is NO.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SJPN after paying fixed penalty and providing licence number
« on: June 04, 2026, 10:37:17 am »
Quote from: JustLoveCars on June 04, 2026, 10:28:04 am
Quote from: msstress on June 04, 2026, 01:34:08 am
Is this the sort of case where fixed penalty equivalent sentencing may be appropriate?
The guidance says '...where a penalty notice could not be offered or taken up for reasons unconnected with the offence itself, such as administrative difficulties outside the control of the offender, the starting point should be a fine equivalent to the amount of the penalty and no order of costs should be imposed.'

The sticky point is the 'difficulties' where within your control.  But don't ask, don't get.
The criterion is "reasons unconnected with the offence". Admin difficulties are simply quoted as an example.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Police Traffic stop report - Driving without due care
« on: June 03, 2026, 01:52:40 pm »
Quote from: Fazzy on June 03, 2026, 11:20:08 am
Quote from: 666 on June 03, 2026, 10:26:43 am
Dad's ethnic minority status cannot possibly explain this.

As certain politicians and newspapers have explained over the past few days, non-white people are actually treated favourably by our two-tier police service.

It is better for humanity if people learn to not take what these certain politicians and newspaper tell you as gospel and instead try and speak to these "non-whites" to hear their lived in experiences for a balanced view.
Sorry, my satire perhaps should have been labelled as such.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Police Traffic stop report - Driving without due care
« on: June 03, 2026, 10:26:43 am »
Dad's ethnic minority status cannot possibly explain this.

As certain politicians and newspapers have explained over the past few days, non-white people are actually treated favourably by our two-tier police service.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP red light A240
« on: June 03, 2026, 09:45:25 am »
Quote from: allondon on June 02, 2026, 10:23:50 pm
Thanks for the explanation. I now understand the nature of the offence, though the position of the rear wheels is not visible in the evidence. This scenario of a car fully or partially past the stop line when the light changes is quite common, I need to work out the correct action in any future case. And I have to admit that I can't see the sensors around the stop line on the Street View.
If you think the position of the rear wheels is relevant, then I'd suggest that you do not in fact "understand the nature of the offence".

As already explained, the offence is committed if any part of the vehicle crosses the line when prohibited.

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The Flame Pit / Re: AI Phone & seat belt cameras - wearing dark clothing
« on: June 03, 2026, 07:41:58 am »
It is possible that the likelihood of a driver wearing dark clothing did not occur to anyone involved in the development of the system. But, I would suggest, rather unlikely.

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The Flame Pit / Re: Insurer not offering to renew
« on: June 01, 2026, 07:32:27 am »
Yes, you can rely on that.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Speeding camera hidden deliberately 52 in a 40 limit
« on: May 16, 2026, 05:29:58 pm »
Even if there were such a law, they would not be "breaking their own law". Laws in this country are made by Parliament, not the police. So far.

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Private parking tickets / Re: First ever Parking Charge received - The Broadway Shopping Centre Car Park, Yaxley - Smart Parking
« on: May 15, 2026, 05:34:12 pm »
Quote from: DWMB2 on May 15, 2026, 05:04:53 pm
Quote from: 666 on May 15, 2026, 04:59:10 pm
That presumption of delivery (presumably!) derives from the Interpretation Act.
You may wish to re-familiarise yourself with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act.
Thank you. Every day is a school day.

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Private parking tickets / Re: First ever Parking Charge received - The Broadway Shopping Centre Car Park, Yaxley - Smart Parking
« on: May 15, 2026, 04:59:10 pm »
Quote from: Dave65 on May 15, 2026, 04:40:39 pm
Can you post up a copy of the PPN with personal details redacted but leave dates?
Issued on the 08-05-2026 Friday, presumed delivered two working days after Tuesday 12-05-2026.
That presumption of delivery (presumably!) derives from the Interpretation Act. But that applies only "Where an Act authorises or requires any document to be served by post". AFAIK there is no such Act in this case.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Got an NIP for going 4 miles over the speed limit in a 20
« on: May 15, 2026, 03:04:27 pm »
Quote from: andy_foster on May 15, 2026, 02:28:05 pm
https://www.ftla.uk/speeding-and-other-criminal-offences/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!/
There is no mileage in questioning the calibration cert.

And you do NOT "normally get 10% + 2 MPH". The guideline of "10% plus 2" is actually the starting point for enforcement, i.e. you only "get" 10% plus 1mph.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP for sp30.... but I was miles away!
« on: May 13, 2026, 02:16:40 pm »
Quote from: ManxTom on May 13, 2026, 01:24:58 pm
Quote from: DisappointedPanda on May 13, 2026, 07:51:35 am
I can't remember driving down that road.I would have been in the area for about 5pm.



I mean it sounds very unlikely, but is it at all possible that the "camera clock" had not been updated to British Summer Time and was an hour behind?

And if it was, would it make a difference...
It's not at all unlikely, we see examples almost every time the clocks change.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: DVLA fine for SORN’d car whilst at garage
« on: May 12, 2026, 04:44:11 pm »
I suspect that your friend has not received a "fine" but an "Out-of-Court Settlement" offer.

As the name suggests, if he/she ignores or refuses the offer, the next step will be court. If he/she pleads not guilty and is convicted (which seems likely) the cost will almost certainly be much higher than the offer.

However, the quoted "fine" seems very high. I'd strongly suggest that your friend should post here direct, and give us the full story.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP as the registered keeper of vehicle
« on: May 10, 2026, 12:21:57 pm »
With a clean licence, 3 points should have little or no effect on insurance.

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