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Thank you, i have  now changed this, i have until the 19th September to submit further  information re my appeal.

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I'm just here to say is this what the world has now come to, LA's zooming in on number plates from a distance for minor traffic offences. Insane!

TX.
[Haha, I think lambeth must be going through financial hardship clearly]

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Hi All, Thanks for all the response please see my first draft and any feedback will be appreciated

Subject: Update on Appeal - Case Reference [Your Case Reference Number]

Dear [Tribunal's Name/Title],

I hope this message finds you well.

I am writing to provide an update regarding my appeal against the Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) issued to my vehicle. The case reference number is [Your Case Reference Number].

I would like to clarify and reiterate the key points of my appeal for your consideration:

Position of My Vehicle: At the time of the alleged contravention, my vehicle had already passed the 'give way' sign. The photographic evidence provided shows that the other vehicle involved had not yet reached Salter's Hill or approached the junction.

Compliance with Traffic Regulations: No vehicle had entered Salter's Hill while my vehicle was at the 'give way' sign. Traffic regulations do not require a driver to slow down or stop in anticipation of a vehicle that is not yet visible or oncoming.

Signage and Road Markings: The 'Give Way' line, in conjunction with the 'Give Priority To' sign, creates the restriction. However, the presence of the line does not alter the meaning or extent of the sign. The restriction remains 'Give Priority To,' and the line does not transform it into a 'Give Way' requirement. The extent of the restriction is defined by the sign itself, which covers the arch of the bridge. Adding a line does not change this extent. The interpretation of the restriction is not subject to the discretion of the council officer on the day but is defined by the sign and its placement.

Signage and Layout Issues: Additionally, the layout and signage at this location are poorly designed and do not clearly indicate the priority zone. The signage does not provide a clear indication of the priority area, which contributes to confusion. The lack of clear, unambiguous markings makes it difficult for drivers to understand the priority zone and their obligations.

Legal Distinction Between 'Give Way' and 'Give Priority': According to the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions (TSRGD) 2016, 'Give Way' and 'Give Priority To' are distinct traffic control measures. A 'Give Way' sign (Regulation 10 of the TSRGD) requires a driver to yield and stop if necessary, whereas a 'Give Priority To' sign (Regulation 16) requires drivers to allow other vehicles to proceed in situations where they have priority, but it does not require a complete stop unless necessary. The addition of a 'Give Way' line does not change the nature of a 'Give Priority To' sign or its requirements.

Distance and Positioning of Vehicles: The CCTV images do not accurately reflect the distance from the bridge to the traffic island beyond it. The stretch of road is much longer than depicted in the images. The 'Priority over oncoming vehicles' sign is positioned just before the bridge on the other side, not immediately after it. In the CCTV footage, the oncoming vehicle is only at the traffic island, before the speed sign and well before the traffic calming humps. Diagram 615 (Item 9 in Part 2 of Schedule 3 to the TSRGD 2016) indicates that priority must be given to vehicles from the opposite direction, but this requirement is not limitless. The presence of another vehicle further down the road does not automatically necessitate waiting if the vehicle is not within the immediate priority area.

In light of these points, I respectfully request that the tribunal review the PCN in light of the evidence provided and the considerations outlined above. I believe that a fair assessment will conclude that no contravention occurred.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. I am available to provide any further information or clarification if required and look forward to your decision.

Yours sincerely,

[Your Name]
[Your Address]
[Your Contact Information]
[Vehicle Registration Number]



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I have decided to take it to a tribunal review, I'll post an update on the outcome when it's concluded.

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Hi Please see response from lambeth, Thanks

Thank you for writing to us.
We have carefully considered what you say but we have decided not to cancel your PCN.
We sent you a PC because our CCTV camera evidence shows your vehicle failing to give way to oncoming vehicles. The sign has a small red arrow and a large black one. Below are the words 'Give way to oncoming vehicles.
There are adequate signs advising all drivers that priority must be given to vehicles coming from the opposite direction on Salters Hill.
The road marking to diagram 1003A (transverse line) and the GiVE WAY sign impose a mandatory requirement on drivers to stop at the transverse line, giving priority to oncoming vehicles travelling from the opposite direction. The Give WAY marking (diagram 1003) requires that "no vehicle may proceed past the transverse line at a time likely to endanger the driver of, or any passenger in, a vehicle that has priority (oncoming) to cause the driver of such a vehicle to change its speed or course to avoid an accident. Whilst we have noted your comments, I should advise that your vehicle was required to stop at the Give Way marking as priority is given to oncoming vehicles proceeding from the opposite direction. After carefully reviewing the CCTV evidence, it shows that the vehicle coming from the opposite direction was now at the point of priority. Therefore, you should have acknowledged this and stopped at the
transverse lines
Please note that all our traffic signs are made of illuminated material. This means that the dimmest of light from any vehicle at night will reflect on the sign showing its details.

The signs at the location conform to the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2016 and The Traffic Signs
Manual Chapter 3.
1 appreciate you did not intend on committing the contravention and understand the circumstance described within your representation. Please be advised that it remains the driver's/keeper responsibility to ensure that the vehicle was proceeding in accordance with the restriction in place.
The enclosed photos help to show why your PC was issued.
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You can also view photographic evidence of your case online at https://beta.lambeth. gov.uk/parking/parking-fines-and-penalty-charge-notices-pcs/penalty-charge-notices-pens/pay-or-view-parking-fine-penalty-charge-notice-pen

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i recently was rejected for not allowing oncoming traffic priority at salter hill in lambeth (please view below, My car is the Kia grrey exceed FN20 KYG):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/201284588@N06/shares/J1QA28kH8C

today is last day i can pay 65 reduced or it goes up. is it worth taking to tribunal or should i just pay?

below is what i wrote in my appeal but was rejected:

I hope this email finds you well.

I am writing to formally challenge the Penalty Charge Notice (PCN) issued to my vehicle. I believe the contravention did not occur as described, and I would like to provide the following information for your review.

At the time of the alleged contravention, my vehicle had passed the 'give way' sign. The provided photographs show that the other vehicle in question had not yet reached Salter's Hill, nor was it near the junction. My vehicle did not obstruct or cause the other vehicle to alter its speed or direction. Hence, it is not conclusive that the other vehicle can be classified as 'oncoming.'

No vehicle had entered Salter's Hill when my vehicle was at the 'give way' sign. According to traffic regulations, there is no requirement to slow down or stop at a 'give way' sign in anticipation of a vehicle that is not visible or oncoming.

Based on these points, I respectfully request a review and reconsideration of the PCN issued. I believe that a fair assessment will conclude that no contravention occurred.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. I look forward to your response.

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