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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SORN'd car clamped
« on: August 06, 2024, 09:41:53 am »
Presumably now they have died somebody needs some form of executors powers. Who might that be ?

Good question. The estate is intestate so no will and no Executor. The family are currently still at the information-gathering stage to ensure the estate is solvent (it now appears to be) and so no-one has yet applied to be Administrator.

Regarding the penalty. It is an offer to settle the matter out of court. (Has a penalty actually been received or was it just clamped).

It's only recently been clamped and there's an offer to settle the matter out of court.

Not accepting the offer should eventually result in a DVLA prosecution. But of whom? I would imagine that they would choose not to proceed when notified.

So thanks to the helpful comments here (and particularly @facade for directing me here) it seems the family can allow the car to be towed, politely decline or simply ignore any Out of Court Settlement offers and then once DVLA become aware the RK has passed away they should drop any further action.

I'll update the thread if/when DVLA respond or if there are any further developments.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SORN'd car clamped
« on: August 05, 2024, 01:52:25 pm »
get a valuation from someone like Redcorn and see how that compares with money owed.
contact dvla and just say the RK (and owner) is deceased what happens?

I've had several quotes to collect/scrap for less than £200 which would mitigate the fines to a degree but then there's the timing issue of ensuring the car is promptly collected once the clamping fee has been paid so it's not an ideal solution. For example there's a risk that any insurance that was in place when the vehicle was clamped is no longer valid now the policyholder has passed.

DVLA have been contacted but state replies can take up to 10 days by which time it may have been towed anyway...

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SORN'd car clamped
« on: August 05, 2024, 11:26:12 am »
If the car is worth very little I don't see any point in worrying about it. Let them keep the car and dispose of it. It'll svae you the hassle.

Agreed but I don't want to suggest that if it means the fines/fees just get even larger especially when they start adding £21 a day storage fees.

The concern is if the estate will still owe all that even once the car has been crushed or is there some mechanism whereby having the car crushed extinguishes most of the fees just leaving a token DVLA fine and a nominal amount of back tax?

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SORN'd car clamped
« on: August 05, 2024, 05:50:49 am »
Who is the registered keeper of the car? If the RK is deceased then write the clampers/DVLA informing them of the fact. Not your problem to pay any fines for someone else.
It is however the Estate of the deceased's problem?

Exactly this, it will be a very small estate so I'm trying to help them minimise how much has to be paid out in fines and fees if they are at all avoidable.

I was hoping someone here has experience of a car being impounded and whether it is accurate that an alternative to paying hundreds in fees is to simply sign over the car to the state/pound/clamper?

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Speeding and other criminal offences / SORN'd car clamped
« on: August 04, 2024, 06:38:36 pm »
A helpful poster on MSE suggested I post my predicament on here. An elderly relative unwittingly SORNed his car even though it was still parked on a public road outside his house. (The car had failed its MOT just as the relative became very unwell, a short while later they were admitted to hospital and sadly a few weeks later they passed away.)

While in hospital the car was clamped and I believe there's now a £280 fee to pay to release the clamp. If it's not paid then the car will be towed incurring more fees and ultimately crushed. However the car isn't worth much more than the fees already due, we don't think it's a runner anyway and even if the clamp release fee was paid there's nowhere to store it off-road.

The family aren't rich so I'm looking for the cheapest/easiest solution to get them out of a bad situation.

It has been suggested that the best option may be to do nothing for now, allow the car to be towed/impounded and then sign a waiver for them to crush the car which may cancel the clamp/impound fees. This may just leave a much smaller DVLA penalty plus a small amount of back-tax to pay. Does anyone here know whether this suggestion is feasible or not or have any alternative suggestions?

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