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Email received from Tribunal. Appeal allowed. Finally, after 10 months!!
Thanks @Hippocrates  for getting this through successfully. 😄😄

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The law is that one can pay the discount at any time within the discount period despite submitting a representation.  So if Havering are saying on their documents that if you submit reps you are not entitled to the discount they are wrong in law, and need to be dragged over the coals on this.

I don't know is this answers your comment - from 22 July Havering Council removed the opportunity of the 50% discount  if appeal overturned

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UPDATE 1 FEB 2025

I sent in an email complaint to Havering Council on 30 January regarding Traffic & Parking Control department, outlining the representation lost by them and the Order for Recovery sent to me which was not registered.

A reply was received the same day which said:

“A copy of your challenge sent to Miss Green on the ***10th January has been added to the case as a formal challenge and will be reviewed tomorrow.  A decision will be sent to you by email and post.

The TEC fee and surcharges have been removed and there is no need for a further Statutory Declaration to be made to the Traffic Enforcement Centre.

Please accept my apologies for the Order for Recovery being issued before being registered.”

*** this was an email where I enlisted the help of a local councilllor to obtain info on when I should receive communication on the Order for Recovery, given that it was almsot six months since the PCN

Today, by post I received, a Notice of Rejection of Formal Representations, attaching a Notice of Appeal which I had added to my One Drive : https://1drv.ms/b/c/ff2efe087033259f/EV47H4w0IN1MoXAKQdczhf4BGoBg9bD4l0skGL3TNHInbA?e=S4zJsH

Now unsure what the next steps are as I appear to be starting over again!!

I'm also away at the end of the week so anything which needs dealing with in 14 days I don't have time

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Just to let you know that it has taken 6 months for Havering to send me an Order For Recovery.
I called TEC on a weekly basis as couldn't trust that I would receive the paperwork from the council or Royal Mail

It also seems that there are many people in Havering who don't receive their Charge Notices as you may have seen on FB.. 

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I phoned the TEC Office to find out if they were open at weekend if I sent in the OfR by signed and tracked.
When they checked the reference I was then told it had not been registered and not to send it in and to contact the council.

I was ready to send it so it had already been signed at the solicitors office.  This morning I received an email to say that there was an error in processing a batch.
A previous email from the parking manager stated that unfortunately my hand delivered letter had been lost in transit. (I have video evidence of handing it over)

I'm not sure I understand the last part of your message

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It's a joke. As well as sending the unregistered Order of Recovery they admit that my hand delivered appeal was lost in transit! 
Will be sending a complaint to Ray Morgon

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Can't believe the council. My order of Recovery hadn't been registered with TEC so they told me not to send it. I had already been to the solicitor and paid for it to be signed.
I informed the council and there was a problem with their system so I have now received another Order of Recovery which again will need to be signed by the solicitor!!
Unbelievable.

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Ok thanks. Wasn't clear on the form.

Also council have already confirmed that they couldn't find my hand delivered representation and that it was lost in transit

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I received the Order of Recovery on Saturday 18th and as I am going to be ticking the box that says that I made representations but didn't receive a rejection notice and the PE3 states underneath- My Reasons are (give full reasona)

Without a reason I am not sure why it would need to be signed off legally?

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Sorry - know you guys are very busy - need to submit Order or Recovery for PE3 - " I made representations etc.... and disn't wwant to mess up the wording

Ta

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ORDER OF RECOVERY RECEIVED
Sorry - trying to keep as short as poss.

Outlining details in brief so far, as I’ve now received the Order of Recovery (after waiting six months!)
Date of PCN 7 June 2024

Up until now this is what has been advised (this may not apply at this stage as I believe I have to say that I made representation)

“The website ground along gives you an almost certain win as the grounds listed on the council website are all wrong: ground F, G and H on the council website are all inapplicable. Add this with the council's likely inability to supply a copy of your video to the tribunal, and you've got them on two grounds (if they can't supply a copy of the video you send with the representations, then that's a failure to supply a true copy of the representations and that alone will win the day)”.

Above done & sent 24hr tracked & signed on 3 July (Royal Mail didn’t deliver & was lost- taken up with RM).
9 July hand delivered letter & other sets of CD’s to council. 
Video evidence of arriving and handing over. 
Not received and now say it is lost!!

Received letter 22 July – no representation – increased charge of £195

Regularly contacted TEC on a weekly /10 days basis until I finally received a response from the council 10 January, that I should receive Order of Recovery by 17 January.

Advised: “TEC then order the CC and OfR to be cancelled and the matter reverts to the PCN stage. AS you submitted reps the council must pass the matter to the adjudicator for a decision”.

Received today so I am assuming I send the PE3 saying I made representation with all the details I stated about RM and hand delivery etc.
I then have to get it signed by a solicitor etc and send the signed form to TEC in Northampton.
 
Signed and tracked again?

Thanks again

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Thanks.
I'll wait for it to come through and ask for further advice
Not really sure why it needs to be signed off by a solicitor etc though.

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I've had a quick look at the PE3 and I believe the box that I would tick  would be I made representation ............etc but did not receive a rejection notice.

I would still need to give a reason for appeal the PCN   
Is this also correct?  - get it signed before a commissioner of oaths, such as a solicitor, Justice of the Peace, or a County Court officer?

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After enlisting the help of my local councillor as I've now reached the 6 month stage without the Order of Recovery, I finally received communication from the council.  I should receive the Order of Recovery by 17th January and have 21 days to file my representation against the PCN.

I would appreciate your help with the wording for the Order of Recovery.

Many thanks

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Another month on - still no Order for Recovery!.  It's becoming a joke.  I have been phoning TEC regularly each week.
Any idea if there is a cut off point when I have to have had the Order?

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