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Thank you for your clarification.
I appreciate the advice and will ignore any further communication from ZZPS or GCTT. It’s reassuring to know that they have no legal power to pursue anything further. Thanks again for your help!

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Hi guys,

I received this email today, and after searching on Google, I found out that this is a company that deals with parking charge notices. I think it might be related to the penalty mentioned above. However, I find it strange to receive this type of email. It looks like a scam. Is this normal? A personal business matter? What on earth is going on?! Has anyone ever had to deal with them? Is this even legal?

Thanks.


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I feel much more confident about the process now. It is good to know that engaging with the IAS won’t impact any potential outcome later. Your point about CPR 16.4 and their reluctance to take this to court is helpful to understand.
I will wait to see what is going to come next.
Thanks again for your advice and for breaking it all down so clearly. It’s much appreciated!

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Will not appeal to the IAS affect my case in court? I am concerned it might be seen as not following standard procedures. If that’s not an issue, I am fine with waiting.

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These guys are quick. This is their reply:





"Failure to Park Within a Marked Bay"? "Parking on private land"? - Is the road even private land? It’s not even a private road. What exactly are they talking about?

"Parking contract"? - Driving in the dark and entering a road with a sign only on the left-hand side—completely unrelated to their jurisdiction—does not mean I’ve agreed to enter into any sort of contract.

"The grace period is not a free parking period and will not apply if the driver is making use of the land"? - I wasn’t given a chance to choose anything, and what exactly did I use?

"In addition, choosing to not read the T&Cs"? How is someone expected to read small print in the dark while driving?

"The driver automatically entered into a contractual agreement"? - No, I did not. That’s precisely why I left after three minutes. I didn’t even park—I pulled over for three minutes.

What is wrong with these people?

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Welcome. This is how it is going to unfold and you must accept that there is unlikely to be any other option unless you decide to pay the scammers and become part of the problem.

You will appeal to NPM and it will be rejected. You won't bother with the kangaroo court that is the IAS secondary appeal service.

You then ignore the wave of useless debt collector letters that will come your way until eventually, you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC) and then an N1SDT Claim Form from the county court.

With our advice and a valid defence, you go through the motions of acknowledging service of the claim and defending it. Eventually, the claim is discontinued once they realise you are not some low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree that is going to capitulate at the first sign of litigation.

So, for now, you appeal to NPM with the following:

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Appeal Against Parking Charge Notice [PCN Reference Number]

Dear NPM,

I am writing to challenge the Parking Charge Notice referenced above. The allegation is that the driver "failed to park within a marked bay," based on an observation period of just 3 minutes.

This notice is completely baseless and in breach of the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (SCoP), Annex B1. For locations where parking is restricted to permit holders, a minimum consideration period of 5 minutes must be allowed for drivers to read and accept the terms and conditions. Issuing a PCN after only 3 minutes is a blatant violation of this requirement, rendering the PCN invalid.

It is obvious that no breach of terms could possibly have occurred within the mandated consideration period. Your actions demonstrate either ignorance of the SCoP or an intentional disregard for its rules in an attempt to extort money from drivers.

This PCN must be cancelled immediately. I will not waste my time engaging with the IAS, an organisation that exists solely to shield operators like you from accountability. Should you be so vexatious as to pursue this matter further, I will relish the opportunity to defend against your spurious claim in court, where your disregard for the Private Parking Code of Practice and your predatory practices will be laid bare.

Yours,

[Your Full Name]




Thank you for outlining the process clearly. I completely agree with your approach and that this is the best action to address the situation effectively.
I am fully prepared to follow the steps you have recommended and will ensure that everything is handled as advised.
Thank you again for your support.

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Hello everyone,
I received a Parking Charge from NPM. I am finding it confusing because, first of all, I did not park there. The SAT NAV took me to a dead end, and I had to stop to sort it out. As you can see from the photo, I was there only for 3 minutes. Secondly, I stopped on the road. There are no yellow lines or anything. Thirdly, I went back there today. I am finding the signage unclear, as there is one company on the left-hand side of the road and different signs on the other. I took some more pictures. Hopefully, they are clear, and you can help me with some advice.
Thanks in advance.








The red dot shows where I had stopped.




I did not enter this private area on the side.


I did see this one today. It is on the wall I stopped by that evening. However, I did not see it at the time I had to stop.


This car was there today, and this is how I pulled over the other evening.


This is the same car from the back.

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Unfortunately not. I am just seeing it  :'(

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Is this what we are talking about?

I just found it....

https://imgur.com/jT0aLYo

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Yes, I have, only once, just as it states: "within the limits provided within your fixed penalty notice", a.k. 02. 04.2024.

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Has anyone got any spare crayons. I'm going to need lots of them.

You received an SJPN on 23/04/2024.  For some reason known only to yourself, you decided that it would be helpful to upload a scan of the first page, but not the second. Perhaps you were not aware that notices can have more writing on the back. This would explain a lot. The second page would invariably have included instructions to provide identification details to the Fixed Penalty Clerk - although the police seem to like to call it something else - basically name, date of birth and licence no. (if UK licence holder) - although your licence number incorporates your date of birth, so arguably that is not a separate requirement.

You apparently have proof that you provided the required information on 02/04/2024. That is 3 weeks before you received the COFP. I suspect that your proof is somewhat less compelling than you might otherwise have thought.

I am sorry for not posting the second page.

https://imgur.com/a/wEvRgHC

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You haven't shown us the back page of the Fixed Penalty Offer, but I suspect that Step 2 of the instructions tells you to submit your driving licence details as well as paying £100. Did you do that?

Either that or, if you did submit them, the police say they did not receive them. That will probably be the reason why you have been prosecuted.

You have two choices:

You can plead guilty to the charge and in the "mitigation" section of your response, explain that you failed to send your licence details (if you did fail) or explain that you did and they must have not been received. As a result, ask the court if they would sentence you at the fixed penalty equivalent (there is guidance that suggests this might be done if the court thinks fit).

Or, if you definitely did send your details, you can plead not guilty and defend the charge using s76(2) of the Road Traffic Offenders' Act. This says that no proceedings shall be taken against a defendant who has complied with the requirements of a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty. Before you consider this option, it would be a good idea to check that you can prove you submitted your details.

Yes, I have. I copy of it is attached to the most recent letter. I guess this is what we are talking about:

https://imgur.com/a/Q7ftriV

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Did you follow all the instructions on the subsequent pages of the fixed penalty offer? We've seen a few where people paid but didn’t submit their licence details when taking up the fixed penalty.


Yes, I have. The Single Justice Procedure Notice has a copy of my statement sent on 02.04.2024.

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Hello everyone,

On 30th March, I received an NIP, which I filled in and sent back.
Following that, on 23rd April, I received a Conditional Offer of Fixed Penalty. I made the payment in a week and thought I was done with it. To my surprise, a new letter came through the post today. It is the Single Justice Procedure Notice.
I am confused now. Why am I receiving it? The conditional offer letter states that if I don't wish to contest the matter in court, a deal is possible - a fixed penalty and the endorsement of 3 penalty points. I have taken the deal and made the payment on time.
I have attached all three letters.
What is happening now?
Thanks.

https://imgur.com/dsJE6Ge

https://imgur.com/SRyq5Yw

https://imgur.com/WDpj6UM


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