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Hi everyone.

So it's been a while with this case, and I haven't heard anything back from the London Tribunal. Would they have emailed me, or posted a letter?

The latest on PCN history is as follows:

01 May 2026
On Hold : SUS40 - Statutory Declaration
Receipt
N/A

21 April 2026
On Hold: SUS40 - Statutory Declaration
Receipt
N/A

20 March 2026
Notice of Debt Registration Issued
A debt has been registered and an Order for Recovery has been issued.

20 March 2026
Debt Registration Accepted
The PCN has progressed and TfL has received authority to register a debt against this vehicle.

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@tincombe.

Thank you, I used what you gave, filled in the details, and modified it for a little more accuracy. Thank you very much.

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This situation is worsened because, even during their active hours, I believe the bays are sometimes used without issue by council staff for their personal vehicles i.e. not liveried or 'council' vehicles.

Then I suggest you turn this round:
This situation is worsened because the bays are used by council liveried vehicles. I understand why this 'council vehicle' exemption(against a prevailing restriction) might be desirable when they are operational e.g. street cleaning, highway works, meals-on-wheels etc. but it is surely not the council's intention to create an overflow car park for the Brewery Road depot which effectively robs fee-paying permit holders of the opportunity to park legitimately.

Thank you, very, very much!  :D


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Thank you so much!

I will edit and submit this (or my wife will at least).

The council vehicles have Islington decals on them.

They have a "base" on Brewery Road. But despite having their own parking yard, they seem to use all the resident bays.

I've been told by a CEO they are to only use the IS-D business bays, but that doesn't happen. Well it does, but they overflow onto the permit bays.

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RK is my missus. If I remember correctly, this ones on her (for once).

The pay and display begins at 9.30AM according to the signboards.

Many of the the permit holder bays in IS-D are taken up by Islington's own vans (a lot of which are diesels, which I find hypocritical).

They take up the bays day and night. Many of the residents complain, but do nothing. Including myself.

I don't mind getting my wife to resubmit the old reps. Just looking to go tribunal in the hopes I can get something.

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No reps made against NTO yet. Was wondering on what grounds to submit reps.

Should I just submit my original appeal again?

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Hi guys,

I received the NTO for this PCN recently. I've left it a bit late to upload, I know. Sorry.

Is there any grounds I could appeal on and go to tribunal, since it's at the higher price now anyway?

Thank you as usual.

NTO Page 1

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The signage shown in the council's response is 0.3miles. Which according to Google maps is a 6min walk, therefore 12mins there and back.

Owing to the 0 minute observation time. Someone traveling to and from that sign in order to check the timings, would have found themselves with a PCN anyway.

I appealed again along those grounds.

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You have a resident's permit?

I do. For IS-D which is on Brewery Road, adjacent to the road where the contravention occured.

A technical angle is what I'm searching for, to see if I can take it all the way to tribunal.

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I knew the parking timings. I left it overnight, and forgot to move it the next day. Normally I'd wake up and move it to a permit bay as it becomes available.

I was just seeing if I had any way of wriggling out of it.

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Hi everyone.

I got a PCN for parking during restricted hours on Caledonian Road. The PCN is below. The pictures only showed my car, and no street signage.

The closest gateway signs (if they're called that) has one of the signs missing on one side, I don't know if that helps. This is on Brewery Road.

I appealed simply saying "The contravention did not occur". I have included their response to the appeal below as well.

As usual any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

PCN Front

PCN Back


Appeal reply




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They have stated 10 minute observation is for after a payment session expires.

I accept that, but is there no observation period for before a payment is made?

Surely it's not right that the PCN states 9.41to 9.41 as an observation period. Which means the CEO printed as soon as he possibly could to try avoid the motorist paying or even returning back into the car after deciding not to pay?

And yes the photos show 9.43 etc, but with the PCN already printed, had I returned to the car, the would have simply said "sorry it's already printed". Like they've done on so many other occassions?

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So I appealed this PCN. I will need to find my original appeal, but parts of it are in Islington's second response anyway.

Should I pay or take it further based on their response? Please see below:




Response to above:
Thank you for your response. However, it does not address any of the points I made in my original appeal. Please could you address the points made in the original challenge.



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IMO, TfL actions are subject to the Act and Practice Direction, in this case:

https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/sites/default/files/Practice%20Direction%2003-2024%20on%20behalf%20of%20ETA%2028%20November%202024%20%28PWS%29.pdf

OP, you are Ground 2. This means that TfL have options:


1. To refer the matter to the adjudicator at which point the Proper Officer 'will write' to your wife to get confirmation that reps were made. With this option the decision lies with LT whether to register TfL's referral as an appeal(para. 8), or

2. To refer the matter to the adjudicator AND re-serve the NOR, in which case no action is required of the adjudicator unless your wife fails to pay or appeal to the adjudicator within the period allowed (paras. 10 and 11).

TfL should act promptly in either case and I don't see that they would or may hold progression simply because the owner claims that a CD was broken. Under 1 above, the issue is procedural(were proper reps actually made) and if ultimately registered as an appeal(NB. not your wife's choice) then she would have plenty of time to be supplied with the CD. 2 above doesn't seem to apply because you've not suggested that a NOR has been re-served. But let's see the covering letter which came with the bundle pl. 

In short, IMO her next communication should be from LT and your wife doesn't need to do anything. However, if she doesn't have a copy of the reps, then ask for one from TfL, assuming there isn't a copy in the bundle.

Hi,

sorry for the late reply.

I've attached below the cover letter. It came with a big bundle of evidence that they submitted to the LT.


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