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The clock was set to 8:30.

I agree, they probably have ironed this out with the CEO and are now using the correct code. Which ideally should validate the other challenge that I made that code 30o shouldn't be used for SYL.

Is it still worthwhile putting in a informal rep?
I was planning on putting an informal rep in and get them to explain why code 01 was used and not code 30o on this occasion.

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Hi FTLA Members,

Today I have I got a PCN for parking in a restricted street, Code 01 with a BB on display in the correct manner. I assume I got this PCN as the vehicle was on the SYL for more than 3 hours. It was a single yellow line which doesn't have any no loading blips.

But hold on, how comes Camden didn't use code 30o (parked for longer than permitted blue badge holder), this is the exact same circumstance (Same Contravention however code 30o was used)? Surely, in these sort of contraventions only one code should apply?

PCN and a few CEO images, REDACTED

pl, do recommend how I should proceed with this PCN. So far I have not put informal reps in.

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I have a tribunal date in June 2026.

Would it be advisable to upload the Council's Enforcement Protocol, which states that contravention code 30 only applies in parking bays and not yellow lines (on page 15)?

The reason I wanted to upload it, just in case an adjudicator doesn't understand how that contravention code can't apply on yellow lines.

As recently, I read a tribunal decision and the adjudicator noted 'The decisions of this Tribunal do not establish precedent and an Adjudicator is not bound by a decision in a previous case. I am not persuaded the decision relied upon is one to be followed.'

Therefore, I wanted to cover all the bases in case they do not look at or agree with the referenced case I used for the formal reps.

Though there is some time away, do let me know your thoughts.

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I've put the ETA appeal in and got a case ref no.

I've submitted the following:

Ground(s)for appeal:
-The contravention did not occur
-EA Procedural Impropriety

Reason for appeal: Contravention did not occur and there was a Procedural Impropriety.

Attending hearing: Yes

I take it the reason for appeal can be edited at a later date once the tribunal date is set?

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I plan to put the ETA Appeal in the next few days. The NOR was issued on 02 Dec 2025.

I just wanted to confirm the following steps:

1) I tick contravention did not occur and procedural impropriety
2) Do I need to write why I believe the above two points are relevant? If so, what should I write in particular?
3) The hearing should either be telephone or online, NOT on paper
4) Do I need to screenshot the process?

If there is anything else that I need to do, pl let me know.


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Another +1 here

there's a chance you'd get Mr Stanton-Dunne as the adjudicator, which would be immensely entertaining.

I hope Mr Stanton-Dunne is on duty as it will be interesting indeed. Whoever it is, I just hope they understand why I believe the contravention didn't take place.
I've made a note for next week to come back and put the appeal in for the ETA.


In the meantime I wanted to know the following:
1) I take it the following information will be public indefinitely: my name, VRM, Contravention Location, Details of the case and outcome
2) the following wouldn't be publicised: Mobile No, Email and vehicle keeper address

Pl, do let me know and I plan to put the appeal in next week (will come back to the forum for assistance).

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Unfortunately, my formal reps have been rejected.

Notice of Rejection (Redacted)

They've also included the 4 page 'TMA - Your right to a appeal' document.


I understand that if I were to take this to ETA, not all adjudicators will understand as to why I believe that no contravention occurred?


Also, is the Council not acting in a 'wholly unreasonable manner' in trying to chase this PCN. As, there was already an adjudicator case where the PCN was cancelled and in Camden owns Parking Protocol Document, the alleged contravention can only take place in a bay rather than SYL.

Pl, do let me know what you think in the meantime.


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Just the PCN is fine.

I would include the case number up-front and say London Tribunals:

... rely upon the decision of adjudicator Stanton-Dunne at London Tribunals when allowing an appeal for case no. 2240520470 on 18 February 2025 ...

Thank you. Below is my final draft, I'll submit the following reps:



Dear Camden Parking Ops Team,

PCN **********

I refer to the above and NTO issued on 11 November 2025. I hereby make formal representations on the following grounds:

Contravention did not occur.

Rather than rehearse my informal representation in everyday motorists' terms, I shall instead reproduce verbatim and rely upon the decision of adjudicator Stanton-Dunne at London Tribunals when allowing an appeal for case no. 2240520470 on 18 February 2025 on identical grounds, coincidentally against Camden which was actually represented at the hearing.

“This PCN was issued for the alleged contravention of “being parked for longer than permitted blue (badge holder).”

The CEO’s images show that Mr Searle’s car was parked on a single yellow line displaying a blue badge with the clock set at 8.30am so that the three hour blue badge parking exemption had ended. The Council’s evidence is that Fordwych Road is part of a CPZ with controlled hours of 8.30am to 6.30pm Mondays to Fridays.

There is no contravention of a blue badge holder being parked for longer than permitted. The contravention of being parked for longer than permitted occurs when a vehicle is parked in a parking place where there is a permitted period of parking which is exceeded. Mr Searle’s car was not parked in a parking place where there was a permitted period of parking. It was parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours where there is an exemption for blue badge holders to park with the display of a clock. When the vehicle became parked beyond the period of the exemption, a PCN could have been issued for being parked in a restricted street but it was not. The PCN was issued for the wrong contravention, indeed a contravention which does not exist.”

I don't think I could add to his reasoning and therefore I am content to let his words form my representations.

The PCN must be cancelled.

Yours faithfully,
TMO CONTRACT LAW

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The PCN must be cancelled.


Do I need to edit the above and say "The PCN and NTO must be cancelled"?

If not, pl let me know as I plan to submit the formal reps today.

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Updated draft to be used for formal reps:

Dear Camden Parking Ops Team,

PCN **********

I refer to the above and NTO issued on 11 November 2025. I hereby make formal representations on the following grounds:

Contravention did not occur.

Rather than rehearse my informal representation in everyday motorists' terms, I shall instead reproduce verbatim and rely upon the decision of Adjudicator Stanton-Dunne of the Environment and Traffic Adjudicators when allowing an appeal on 18 February 2025 on identical grounds, coincidentally against Camden which was actually represented at the hearing.

“This PCN was issued for the alleged contravention of “being parked for longer than permitted blue (badge holder).”

The CEO’s images show that Mr Searle’s car was parked on a single yellow line displaying a blue badge with the clock set at 8.30am so that the three hour blue badge parking exemption had ended. The Council’s evidence is that Fordwych Road is part of a CPZ with controlled hours of 8.30am to 6.30pm Mondays to Fridays.

There is no contravention of a blue badge holder being parked for longer than permitted. The contravention of being parked for longer than permitted occurs when a vehicle is parked in a parking place where there is a permitted period of parking which is exceeded. Mr Searle’s car was not parked in a parking place where there was a permitted period of parking. It was parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours where there is an exemption for blue badge holders to park with the display of a clock. When the vehicle became parked beyond the period of the exemption, a PCN could have been issued for being parked in a restricted street but it was not. The PCN was issued for the wrong contravention, indeed a contravention which does not exist.”

I don't think I could add to his reasoning and therefore I am content to let his words form my representations. I have attached the ETA Case No. should you wish to verify the above - 2240520470 .

The PCN must be cancelled.

Yours faithfully,
TMOCONTRACTLAW
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I feel the above would be good in the sense that no files need to be attached and no issues regarding the formatting of the referenced case. Just hope there's no character limit. Do let me know if any adjustments should be made.

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Does the form not allow for attachments? If it do, you can attach a pdf and so keep the formatting.

If the form does allow for attachments then I was thinking of the following draft (if it doesn't allow it, I will get back to you):

Further to your rejection of my informal challenge I have researched the alleged contravention and found that it does not exist in law.

The council must be aware that there is no contravention of a blue badge holder being parked for longer than permitted in any location, including on a yellow line.

In this case, the 3 hour exemption accorded to blue badge holders is for parking in a restricted street during prescribed hours; after 3 hours, the only contravention is being parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours (code 01).

The PCN was issued not only for the wrong contravention but one that does not exist.

I have summarised this from the decision in tribunal case 2240520470, which was in Camden, and which I reproduce in full below for your information as attached in the PDF file.

The PCN must be cancelled and I look forward to your early confirmation of such.
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If anyone wants to make adjustments then pl let me know. I will try to submit the reps next week as to give time for responses.

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I'll wait for others to respond.

Would it be ok to send a screenshot of the case summary instead of pasting it into the reps online form? As, it might not let me paste all of into the reply box and the formatting will look off.


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I would wait for the NTO. Who is the registered keeper and are the logbook name and address correct.

I've received the NtO today which includes the representation letter/form. The notice is dated 11/11/25.

Should I submit formal reps indicating "The alleged contravention did not occur" and state the following:
I believe the contravention did not occur as I refer you to London Tribunals case 2240520470 which you attended and invite you to cancel the PCN/NtO.

Do let me know what you think and if I should include the case summary in the reps.

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The online status now states the "NtO/Enf. Notice Sent." I am just waiting for it to show up in the post.

In the meantime I wanted to draft up my formal reps.

Would I just send them what I emailed over and do I paste the appeal decision for their convenience?

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I'm the registered keeper and the details on the logbook is correct.

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