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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: West Suffolk - Parked in a restricted street - Angel Hill, Bury St Edmunds
« on: October 07, 2024, 01:09:49 pm »
Ok, I will take the hit on this one then and get the fine paid off. In future I realise now I need to ensure that liability is transferred to me as the lease company only transfer it to my company.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: West Suffolk - Parked in a restricted street - Angel Hill, Bury St Edmunds
« on: October 07, 2024, 01:07:59 pm »
Quote from: ManxTom on October 07, 2024, 11:10:02 am
Quote from: thelegendofyrag on October 07, 2024, 10:05:30 am
The OfR is addressed to the head office of my company. My situation doesn’t apply to any of the tick boxes.

I'm not sure that your company (or their fleet manager) has dealt with this correctly(?).

Does your contract of employment or contract of employment require you to refund your employer for parking fines etc that they've had to pay on your behalf?

They ask that we (the driver) pay the fine. So what I have done in the past is send an appeal as per MSE advice (for non-council) and always had the fine overturned.

What I now realise is once the lease company transfer liability to my company the liability then needs to transferred to myself.

In this instance it was a windscreen ticket which I appealed with my own personal details. This was rejected, and a subsequent NTO was sent to my lease company of which liability was transferred to my company with a new NTO but not then transferred to myself.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: West Suffolk - Parked in a restricted street - Angel Hill, Bury St Edmunds
« on: October 07, 2024, 10:05:30 am »
The OfR is addressed to the head office of my company. My situation doesn’t apply to any of the tick boxes.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: West Suffolk - Parked in a restricted street - Angel Hill, Bury St Edmunds
« on: October 07, 2024, 08:56:53 am »
Is anyone able to assist with how to progress with this please?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: West Suffolk - Parked in a restricted street - Angel Hill, Bury St Edmunds
« on: September 24, 2024, 02:58:47 pm »
Hi All,

I have now been sent an Order for recovery of unpaid penalty charges addressed to my company.
I have attached the link to this below. Apologies, but i have no idea where to go with this now so your help is greatly appreciated.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NZmvKMw4ePTtd1DJSFeMtU-3VJg8Q66a/view?usp=drive_link

I have until 16th October to either pay or file a statement of grounds to not pay the charge.

In addition if it at all helps i have photographs of people continuing to park at this location and of an ice cream van that is regularly parked literally directly on a sign stating 'Restricted zone - At any time' and blocking any way through in this area.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: West Suffolk - Parked in a restricted street - Angel Hill, Bury St Edmunds
« on: August 01, 2024, 09:29:44 am »
What should my next step be with the most recent NoR being addressed to my company (the leese?) As i have ultimately sent an appeal on the companies behalf, but without my companies written authority? Should i be asking them to notify West Suffolk Council to submit a NTO to me directly?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: West Suffolk - Parked in a restricted street - Angel Hill, Bury St Edmunds
« on: July 31, 2024, 04:36:55 pm »
The second notice to owner on 20th May was sent to Alphabet, exactly the same as the first one on 29th April.

The documents have been sent to me from my car lease manager within my company with no written authority to appeal on their behalf.

Never received an NTO in my name. So no point me going through the Traffic Penalty Tribunal until i have received an NTO addressed directly to me?

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: West Suffolk - Parked in a restricted street - Angel Hill, Bury St Edmunds
« on: July 31, 2024, 03:34:00 pm »
Quote from: H C Andersen on July 29, 2024, 11:20:29 am
OP, can we pl sort out who's who here.

This [the NTO] was issued to the lease company on 29th April requesting payment by 30th May and a response to appeal within 28 days (I received on 13th May)

I have today received another Notice to Keeper via the lease company dated 20th May requesting payment by 20th June or to appeal with 28 days. Not sure why it's been re-sent before the original has expired.

Followed by:

..the Notice of Rejection is addressed to my company not to me directly.


The car is leased..but to whom? You or a company for which you work?

Did you ever receive a NTO in your name i.e. not one addressed to the lease company or perhaps your employer with a note to deal with it, but a NTO in your name?

If not, then what?


So each document as follows:

Notice of Rejection - 22nd March - Addressed to myself. This followed my initial appeal from having received a windscreen ticket
Notice to owner - 29th April - Addressed to the lease company Alphabet UK and passed on to me via my company.
Notice to owner - 20th May - Same as above, same document, sent again.
Notice of Rejection -  Received 4th July following my additional appeal via cp8759's advise. This was addressed to my company not me.

So the vehicle was leased to the company whom I work for. I say was as I now have a different vehicle.

Thanks
Gary



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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: West Suffolk - Parked in a restricted street - Angel Hill, Bury St Edmunds
« on: July 29, 2024, 10:24:35 am »
Quote from: Incandescent on July 15, 2024, 10:56:17 am
No re-offer of the discount so it is now a complete no-brainer to take them to the Traffic Penalty Tribunal as there are no additional costs, and the penalty charge of £70 stays the same.

Thanks, ill get this sorted this week before the 28 days is up. Should i use the same appeal as i used directly with West Suffolk County Council?

I also have images from last weekend of vehicles parked in the same spot, the signs assume that you cannot park around the edges of the car park / war memorial otherwise the distance from the signs to the war memorial would be the same as the distance from signs further round to the actual car park itself!

There is also an ice cream van that parks every day exactly next to a 'not at any time' sign blocking any vehicle access around that part of the car park which by their logic shouldn't be allowed?

Edit* Also, the Notice of Rejection is addressed to my company not to me directly.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: West Suffolk - Parked in a restricted street - Angel Hill, Bury St Edmunds
« on: July 15, 2024, 10:43:37 am »
Ok, so thanks again with your support on this. I now had received a Notice of Rejection response from the council, which would suggest they viewed the evidence provided?

The signage around the edges of the memorial would suggest you cannot park around these areas as it would block the road. The area in front of the memorial has no signage and isn't blocking any right of way.

What would my next steps be now?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/14mUoFihQcydfMakAClxKeuybIpJ8u4MH/view?usp=drive_link

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: West Suffolk - Parked in a restricted street - Angel Hill, Bury St Edmunds
« on: May 31, 2024, 08:09:15 am »
Quote from: cp8759 on May 31, 2024, 12:20:43 am
Quote from: thelegendofyrag on May 28, 2024, 10:24:29 am
The rest of the NTO dated 20th May is linked below.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fup9UxsGu_wwpDuVQDQmCAsYg_OWQAgx/view?usp=drive_link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t4Zb7gaDItwLU5tAmyA0M7LM5KlWYV21/view?usp=drive_link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1coQrt9xF-RhQg9LFakbImis3nLx0PrzJ/view?usp=drive_link
@thelegendofyrag you need to change the link sharing settings to public please.

Just updated the link settings

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: West Suffolk - Parked in a restricted street - Angel Hill, Bury St Edmunds
« on: May 28, 2024, 10:24:29 am »
Quote from: cp8759 on May 28, 2024, 12:04:49 am
Quote from: cp8759 on May 27, 2024, 08:26:14 pm
Also how long were you there for, and what were you doing? The informal rejection says there's a loading restriction in place but as far as I can see that's nonsense, it's just a waiting restriction.

Also the dates stated on the NTO are wrong, the 28 day payment period expires on 18 June. Please post both sides of the original PCN and the remaining pages of the NTO so that we can check for further issues.
Please could you answer the above?

Also are you able to go and check if the zone entry sign an Angel Hill is still visible? Updated photos would help.

I was parked no longer than 30-mins, went into the town to the bank got a coffee and went back to the car. I must have literally just missed the ticket being issued.

I have been back to BSE over the weekend. The sign is there but I only notice it now as I am aware it's there. It's not obvious as your turning right as I wouldn't normally be looking left whilst turning right.

The rest of the NTO dated 20th May is linked below.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fup9UxsGu_wwpDuVQDQmCAsYg_OWQAgx/view?usp=drive_link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t4Zb7gaDItwLU5tAmyA0M7LM5KlWYV21/view?usp=drive_link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1coQrt9xF-RhQg9LFakbImis3nLx0PrzJ/view?usp=drive_link

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: West Suffolk - Parked in a restricted street - Angel Hill, Bury St Edmunds
« on: May 27, 2024, 10:19:11 pm »
Hi, I entered from Angel hill turning right off Northgate Street then drove straight ahead and park directly in front of the memorial. They stated in their reply to my appeal that they cannot place signs on the memorial so they are only around the sides where the path is.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: West Suffolk - Parked in a restricted street - Angel Hill, Bury St Edmunds
« on: May 25, 2024, 11:11:48 am »
Ok thanks, Yeah there’s no ‘entry signs’ as they are located around the perimeter of the memorial which would make sense so as to not block that area for traffic to drive around. The space in front where I’ve and many others park is directly off the road so not blocking anything and no signs upon entry.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: West Suffolk - Parked in a restricted street - Angel Hill, Bury St Edmunds
« on: May 25, 2024, 09:40:30 am »
I was parked where the black car is in the google street view link with a whole row of cars there. Got the PCN here and have always parked there, never around the outside where the no waiting signs are.

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