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I am on holiday for 20 days. Hopefully, I have time to submit formal representtaion upon my return.

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This wording from our admin on a previous case gives some ideas. The footway markings aren't good enough to say where the bays are is one point.

Note the part about the resolution.

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Dear ...

Thank you. I will add some points from here when I recieve the NTO.

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Your choices are to pay the discount or fight on at £140(although it's possible that the discount could still be re-offered).

The former is in your hands, the latter with the registered keeper to whom a NTO would be issued.

Are you the registered keeper with current DVLA details?

I choose to fight on.
Yes, I am the registered keeper and my address is current with DVLA.

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The council has also sent a rejection letter on Friday :






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There are several points.

This council widely uses footway parking often badly signed and this area has widespread footway parking. This can mean they have a longstanding resolution disapplying the London footway parking ban along entire streets.

There are marked footway bays on the traffic order map but the order does not specify 2 or 4 wheel up bays only resident permit bays.

Are there any footway parking signs in any part of the road.

Where were you on this map:


Apologies for the late reply. I flew back from KSA yesterday just before KSA airspace was restricted.

There were no other footway parking signs on the road.

I parked here ( marked by the green dot ). This is the same spot on GSV where the Corsa for sale is parked :


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Thank you. Informal challenge submitted.

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How does this sound ?

Informal challenge :

Dear Sir/Madam.

I believe an offence has not been committed. The vehicle was parked outside the restricted hours ( Mon-Fri 8:30AM - 5:30 PM ). All vehicles during both restricted and unrestricted hours are also expected to park on the pavement closer to the kerb. The part of the pavement where parking is allowed has a significantly noticeable different road surface and also allows for enough remaining space for pedestrians, wheelchair users and prams to be used.
Furthermore, if a vehicle is expected to only park in marked bays on the pavement, the appropriate sign “ P IN MARKED BAYS” should also be placed

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Good morning.


Please find photos below :


























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I will visit the street today and take some photos of the bays.

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Good morning everyone.

I received this PCN on a Saturday despite the restrictions stating it was till 5:30PM on a Friday.
I returned to my vehicle to find that only I had a PCN on my windscreen and none of the other other cars had one. I made sure I did not park blocking anyone's driveway or was on someone's dropped kerb.

PCN PHOTOS :











GOOGLE STREETVIEW :

https://maps.app.goo.gl/KDvq8xJtDXLZa1n66



Thank you.

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Hello all, just letting you know, finally got a reply back from the Borough after a year from the alleged incidents.

Glad to say both PCNs will not be pursued any further.

Thanks again for all your help and guidance.

🙂


zigzag, did you make contact with LBBD via email or did they write to you?
Can you share a redacted photo of their letter?

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Good morning.

I am running out of time.
Do I make a formal representation or just pay the fine?

I am compared the back of the PCN with another from a London borough and the wording seems to be almost identical.

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Where's your challenge pl?

I also have a feeling that the homeowner must have called the council. I guess it's time to stop being friendly with them

At least you now know, if you believe them!

There haven't been any comments from others regarding the prospective procedural impropriety in the PCN's wording.

The Informal challenege was along the lines of what you mentioned earlier :

"I would simply say that you own (live?) in the road and have parked as can be seen on previous occasions without issue or complaint. From the PCN it would appear that this is not permitted and may be penalised. You apologise and won't park in this way again.

I would not even refer to the cable works, just keep the authority focused on your apology. "

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Thank you H C Andersen.

The council has replied to my informal challenge.



We have fully investigated your case and can see you were issued a PCN for parking at a point where the pavement slopes down to meet the road surface. These can be in place for a couple of reasons 1. Allow access to a private property/driveway access. 2. The kerb may be lowered to make it easier for people to cross the road, especially people with prams or wheelchairs, and so need to be kept clear.
Parking across a private driveway dropped kerbs is only permitted show you have the permission of the property owner/occupier. If you parked without said permission, the owner/occupier can report your vehicles presence to the council and request a Civil Enforcement attend the location. Civil Enforcement officers do not issue to vehicle across private driveway dropped kerbs unless a complaint is received.
No signage is required for a dropped curb contravention as it is also clearly stated in the Highway Code (Rule 217) that you are not to park your vehicle where the curb has been lowered or in front of an entrance to a property. Parking alongside or obstructing a dropped curb is an instant contravention and is enforceable 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
Having reviewed the incoming complaints records for the date in question, we are able to see a complaint was received for the location, when the Civil Enforcement Officer attended the vehicle was found to be parked in contravention and as such the PCN was issued. Having reviewed the images taken by the Civil Enforcement Officer we are satisfied that the PCN was issued correctly on this occasion.


Although I appreciate that you did not intentionally breach the Traffic Regulation Order, the fact remains that you were in contravention of the order. Unfortunately, the circumstances you described give Southend City Council insufficient grounds to cancel the Penalty Charge Notice as stated above.
Whilst I am unable to cancel the penalty I am able to offer you a further 14 days, from the date of this letter, to pay the PCN at the discounted rate.
You now have two options.
Option 1 – Payment at the discounted rate
Please now make payment of £35.00 which is the discounted amount. The charge will revert to its full amount of £70.00 if we do not receive the 50% discounted payment within 14 days of the date of this letter.
Option 2 – Make formal representation:
If you have not paid before the end of 28 days beginning with the date of service of the PCN, a Notice to Owner (NtO) will be issued to the registered keeper of the vehicle. The NtO will allow the registered keeper to make formal representations appealing against the issue of the PCN; the procedure for doing so will be explained in the NtO. Any new evidence can be submitted with the formal representation.

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Are there any parking restrictions on this road.

If not this contravention is usually a result of a home owner calling the council to enforce.

You say the owners know you - if they write a note saying you have permission that should do.

There are no parking restrictions at all on this road.
I also have a feeling that the homeowner must have called the council. I guess it's time to stop being friendly with them.

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