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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Stopped for 90 seconds to Read sign! Bromley PCN code 46 Stopped on a Red Route, Bromley Road /
« on: May 08, 2024, 02:30:30 pm »
Hi cp8759,
I do not need any more help as my PCN is now cancelled! YEAYH!
But I thought I'd celebrate my victory by posting here so others can benefit from my ordeal.
I did NOT pay the £80 reduced charge but sent the following appeal online on the 19th of April.
PCN was cancelled on the 3rd of May.
I am writing to appeal the PenaltyCharge Notice (PCN) GX*******, relating to an alleged traffic violation committed with my vehicle registration D*** ****.
Firstly, I draw your attention that I am not the driver of the vehicle, nor would I divulge the identity of such driver.
Secondly, amidst moving traffic on a major road, there was no possibility to completely and effectively read and interpret a sign that has three different sections with two different time frames.Therefore, the driver, mislead by the fact that several vehicles were already parked on the bays, stopped only to read and enquire about the sign and any parking restrictions. The driver is clearly seen:1/ read the sign – they did not understand the sign, worries about the time it is taking them and seek for help;2/ enquire about the parking restriction by standing at the entrance of the closest shop, with the door ajar and calling for the shopkeeper’s attention; 3/ very briefly converse with the shopkeeper whilst clearly pointing at the loading bay and clearly asking about its restrictions;3/ run back with haste (and worry) to the car, glancing at the sign one last time, without completing any transaction in the aforementioned shop.All of this in the space of 80-90 seconds!
Thirdly, the fine is unwarrantedly excessive,£2 per second parked.This is unduly disproportionate to the nature of the offence, considering that the driver stopped at 2:57pm in a loading bay with restricted hours, during the permitted hours for loading of 7am to 4pm.
I would also argue that the contravention no “46 stopped where prohibited on a red route or clearway” is also wrong. Since the driver is within the permitted time of bay operation then this contravention cannot stand as the driver does not technically commit that offence by stopping there. The correct contravention should have been one of the various parking offences code 30 re parked in a disabled bay or 24 for a loading bay without loading. There are more avenues that I am currently investigating to challenge this PCN. However, due to time constraints, I am sending my appeal as it is.
However, in the eventuality that I must appeal further, could you also please send me by way of reply the make and model of the camera used to film this offence?I am hereby challenging this PCN and requesting its cancellation.
Thank you once again
I do not need any more help as my PCN is now cancelled! YEAYH!
But I thought I'd celebrate my victory by posting here so others can benefit from my ordeal.
I did NOT pay the £80 reduced charge but sent the following appeal online on the 19th of April.
PCN was cancelled on the 3rd of May.
I am writing to appeal the PenaltyCharge Notice (PCN) GX*******, relating to an alleged traffic violation committed with my vehicle registration D*** ****.
Firstly, I draw your attention that I am not the driver of the vehicle, nor would I divulge the identity of such driver.
Secondly, amidst moving traffic on a major road, there was no possibility to completely and effectively read and interpret a sign that has three different sections with two different time frames.Therefore, the driver, mislead by the fact that several vehicles were already parked on the bays, stopped only to read and enquire about the sign and any parking restrictions. The driver is clearly seen:1/ read the sign – they did not understand the sign, worries about the time it is taking them and seek for help;2/ enquire about the parking restriction by standing at the entrance of the closest shop, with the door ajar and calling for the shopkeeper’s attention; 3/ very briefly converse with the shopkeeper whilst clearly pointing at the loading bay and clearly asking about its restrictions;3/ run back with haste (and worry) to the car, glancing at the sign one last time, without completing any transaction in the aforementioned shop.All of this in the space of 80-90 seconds!
Thirdly, the fine is unwarrantedly excessive,£2 per second parked.This is unduly disproportionate to the nature of the offence, considering that the driver stopped at 2:57pm in a loading bay with restricted hours, during the permitted hours for loading of 7am to 4pm.
I would also argue that the contravention no “46 stopped where prohibited on a red route or clearway” is also wrong. Since the driver is within the permitted time of bay operation then this contravention cannot stand as the driver does not technically commit that offence by stopping there. The correct contravention should have been one of the various parking offences code 30 re parked in a disabled bay or 24 for a loading bay without loading. There are more avenues that I am currently investigating to challenge this PCN. However, due to time constraints, I am sending my appeal as it is.
However, in the eventuality that I must appeal further, could you also please send me by way of reply the make and model of the camera used to film this offence?I am hereby challenging this PCN and requesting its cancellation.
Thank you once again