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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Haringey - PCN for funeral parking when phone line down
« on: Yesterday at 10:43:25 pm »
OK, you received no rejection letter from the council in response to your informal challenge, only an NtO turn-up at your girlfriend's address as she is the owner of the car as per the V5C.
Main point to make is that as owner she has legal responsibility for payment or appealing of the PCN. She can now either pay the NtO which is for the full amount, or can submit representations along the same lines as you submitted, or she can authorise you to act on her behalf, but still retains legal responsibility. One point to be added to the formal representation is non-receipt of a response to the informal challenge.
As the amount is now £160, there is no point at all in paying now. Submit reps along the same lines as the original submission, pointing out none of the guests could make payment using their phones, indicating a major fault with the payment method imposed by the council. Point out also the circumstances were such (funeral starting shortly), that alternative parking could not possibly be sought and also that payment was attmepted several times but the system would not accept payment or indeed, work at all.
If they respond by rejecting, but re-offer the discount, you will have to decide whether to pay-up, or take them to London Tribunals. If no re-offer of the discount, it becomes a total no-brainer to take them to London Tribunals, because the penalty remains the same (£160), and there are no additional costs. If she wins, she pays nothing, if she loses, she must pay the £160.
Main point to make is that as owner she has legal responsibility for payment or appealing of the PCN. She can now either pay the NtO which is for the full amount, or can submit representations along the same lines as you submitted, or she can authorise you to act on her behalf, but still retains legal responsibility. One point to be added to the formal representation is non-receipt of a response to the informal challenge.
As the amount is now £160, there is no point at all in paying now. Submit reps along the same lines as the original submission, pointing out none of the guests could make payment using their phones, indicating a major fault with the payment method imposed by the council. Point out also the circumstances were such (funeral starting shortly), that alternative parking could not possibly be sought and also that payment was attmepted several times but the system would not accept payment or indeed, work at all.
If they respond by rejecting, but re-offer the discount, you will have to decide whether to pay-up, or take them to London Tribunals. If no re-offer of the discount, it becomes a total no-brainer to take them to London Tribunals, because the penalty remains the same (£160), and there are no additional costs. If she wins, she pays nothing, if she loses, she must pay the £160.