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On another note, I did want to add how my friends and others in london believe driving in London has become a nightmare. They have taken the joy out of driving. So many cameras, so many no entry zones. Even Google street views cant keep up with. Surely looking at numerous signs while driving takes the joy out of driving anywhere. Always wondering whats around the corner, which rule am I breaking. What road is prohibited at what times. I have one next to my street, which now needs me to drive 10 minutes around during peak hours to avoid that. This literally starts from the end of my street I live in.

You may have a better view of how many tickets are issued in London vs outside. I was recently in the country side, it was much easier, barely any cameras and it was more fun to drive. May be if you drive everyday in london as a taxi driver or for delivery drivers. All others beware if you are the occassional driver in London.


Thoughts ?

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Appreciate your time for looking into this. This clearly my mistake in driving as there is evidence to that fact.

So i want to acknowledge that first and foremost. 


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Also I unable to make an informal representation. See image attached. Is this a technicality I can use to get out of the PCN ?

Edit: Ignore this, as I realised that for camera based PCNs, this serves as the NTO.

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You've redacted the car reg number and PCN Number.

Sorry, but we need to use these to view their evidence, which will be a video, the sole evidence.  GSV seems out-of-date, but in 2024 this was the view down Temple Mills Lane from Celebration Avenue. As you can see, there are no restriction signs, but their CCTV evidence may show them.


https://imgpile.com/p/GagSZYN


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I agree, I could be a better driver. Just hoping someone could help out.

PCN has now been posted. Let me know if you need any other information.

Today is my last day to file within 14 days. I know i left it late as well.


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Hi I have recieved a PCN stating not complying with a no entry restriction. I didnt see the No entry signs as i was following my Sat Nav. Not sure if that can be used as a reason. Is there any other technicality I can use to get out. This is my 3rd ticket in a matter of days. Driving in london is more expensive with tickets rather than hiring a taxi or uber.

Please please help, this seems unfair as they want 80 pounds even if paid within 14 days. This is steep and is clearly putting me off driving.

Also it says I am unable to make an informal representation, even though I havent. I did use the AI chatbot it lead me to, which may have done something as it was forcing me to answer questions, which I really didnt want to answer. I retried to challenge and pCN and it somehow lead me to allow a challenge the PCN. Now I am having to make a formal representation.

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@StunnedDad firstly give us the PCN number, for some reason you've redacted it. Also call TFL on 0343 222 3333 and ask for the video, they will send you a DVD and put the penalty on hold while you wait.

TFL have so many flaws in their processes that every single one of their PCNs are open to challenge, and if you act promptly you can appeal to the tribunal without even risking the discount, so there's no point in paying now.

PCN is GX22020697, sorry didnt realise. Here it is.

Appreciate the response, will call TFL and ask for DVD proof to buy me some time.

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I believe TfL postal PCNs based on CCTV evidence are vulnerable to a particular argument, so wait until others have responded, but don't miss the deadline for payment or reps submission or it's game-over.

Havent had any more responses to this request. Wish I could access the old history, to see how to best deal with this situation.
Or should I just pay up ?

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I have recieved a 50R penalty charge notice. It was dark and i didnt realise there was a no right turn. I dont normally go on those roads. So not aware there was even such a prohibition.

Is it worth fighting this or paying up ?

I have one too many tickets and cant afford to be paying these tickets or just get rid of the car!!

Would really appreciate as I am currently without a job and this is killing me

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Please find attached. the Two tickets

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Understand these signs are required for a bus lane camera. None of these were present

https://penaltychargenotice.co.uk/bus-lanes/signs-and-lines-bus-lane/bus-lane-signs/

So what should my defence be ?

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Am attaching images for a 34J violation.
Two tickets have been issued for contraventions 12/11 and 18/11 (tickets dated 27/11 and 29/11)

The images of the buslane is here

https://imgur.com/a/D3m6uVj

Am also told they dont have the VCA certificate for the bus lane cameras issued.

Your help much appreciated.

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