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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Hammersmith & Fulham borough -parked without payment of parking charge [Updated w/ photos and PCN]
« on: November 29, 2023, 10:55:37 pm »Well, it does look like Google Street View is wrong : -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/iXSE1tFbifAqhYms6
This is the pub opposite where you parked with a clearly displayed sign "Cambria Street" so the PCN location looks correct.
However, there seem to be some serious errors with the pay-by-phone numbers.
The parking bay sign: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/KWBbPFVQwCLgN7wo9
clearly displaying parking code of 17454
then the label on the parking ticket machine located right by the bay where you parked !
https://maps.app.goo.gl/92y5fccZMsgmHngK7
giving a code of 17730 and app RingGo.
This code is also repeated on the sign for the bay on the opposite side of the road
https://maps.app.goo.gl/8zx1r4Tnee3AgEjQ7
Although it is a rule that parking restrictions and payment methods are not applicable if they are on the opposite side to the parking bay where parked.
Finally, your point about inadequate photos not showing your car's number plate or the PCN stuck to it.Photos are not a legal requirement for parking PCNs served at the roadside, and never have been. It is a point worth making in any reps you send in or in an appeal to London Tribunals, but not a winner on its own. The civil law test applies with PCN appeals, being "the balance of probabilities", not the criminal test of "beyond all reasonable doubt".
I think the signs here are a real Dog's Breakfast, and confusing. Of course the reason for the two codes is that the bay you parked in has a one hour restriction, (17454), the other code is unlimited (17730).
Essentially, to avoid confusion, the council should not have the ticket machine next to the bay to which it doesn't apply. I wonder how many people use the ticket machine to get a ticket for that bay and are then whalloped for it !
Thank you for taking the time to reply.
I agree, the signs are bad as I looked at the parking meter with the location number and the parking sign opposite and felt assured I was parked in a bay that is 17730.
Where do I go from here? Any advice on disputing this? On what grounds?