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I sent this:

I am writing to appeal against your PCN.

I am the registered keeper of the vehicle but am extremely physically disabled, have no driver's licence and did not park the vehicle. Furthermore I have no way of knowing which of the many people insured to drive it was the one who parked it before your PCN was issued.

I have parked in that specific disabled space displaying my Blue Badge for over 19 years. When PCM took over parking control on behalf of [Housing Association] in 2017 I was issued with three carers' permits and have had no further contact with PCM.

To be clear, I have never been told by [Housing Association] or PCM that I needed anything other than my Blue Badge to park in a marked disabled parking space at my home.

I have spoken to PCM's permit team since receiving two PCNs. I have now been told I need a permit to park and have arranged that.

It seems to me that someone who works for PCM has recently chosen to target vulnerable and disabled people in order to make some money. This is clearly discrimination as the resident here in [development where I live] who issues PCNs has never ticketed a resident or visitor displaying their Blue Badge.

For all of the above reasons I will not be paying this PCN.

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Thanks all. I've appealed and told them I'm not paying. We'll see what happens!

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Thanks everyone.

H C Andersen; all your assertions are correct. To answer your questions, I lease my car through the Motability scheme because I need a large vehicle with a lot of adaptations. I don't know if I am the Registered Keeper as Motability hold the V5 but PCM have got my details from DVLA/Motability.

I paid the PCN for my mother because the anxiety was making me ill. Definitely fighting my two though.

Advice re. what to write in my appeal gratefully received. Thanks very much.

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Sorry; the third PCN. It's within 28 days unlike the others. The housing association made me wait for over 10 working days to completely ignore my issue and refuse to discuss it further.

Should I just pay the PCNs and try to get the housing association to reimburse me? This is a lot to deal with and if PCM are going to be litigious am I risking huge debts?

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Yes, someone else always parks it. I don't have a driving license.

The notice says I have 28 days to appeal. I'll try with the last one.

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I've requested my lease by email and phone; still waiting, no surprise there! Is there anything I can do to hold off PCM while the complaint goes through the extremely inefficient housing association? I'm extremely physically disabled and there is no way I could have parked my car in that space. Also, if there are marked disabled spaces and no mention of any restrictions on the signs is that worth mentioning? The signs were all replaced about 6 months ago. I just don't want my visitors or me getting in more debt or court action with PCM.

Thanks again for your help.

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3. These are the three PCNs I need to deal with. The first was on a visitor's car and the other two were on mine.

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Hi DWNB


1. I have always parked in the same marked disabled space with my Blue Badge; it's not an allocated space though. I have three passes for my carers to use when they're working at my flat. No-one has ever informed me that I needed a permit from PCM to park here.


2. These are the signs close-up and the position where my car is parked.




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The woman I spoke to at PCM said they started patrolling here in 2017. There has never been a consultation to my knowledge (or memory).

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Thanks very much. I'll get pictures in daylight tomorrow. I've requested a copy of my lease. Will post all info tomorrow.

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Hi! I live in Housing Association flats. The private communal car park is patrolled by PCM, a parking company, who require residents to buy permits. However, for the 19 years I've lived here I have parked in the same disabled parking space and only displayed my Blue Badge. 

In the last six weeks I, another resident and visitors have all received several PCNs while parked in disabled spaces with Blue Badges in the windscreen. The PCNs stated we had parked without displaying a valid PCM permit. We've never been informed by the Housing Association or PCM that we need permits. 

I've googled private car parking laws and can't find any change in them. PCM's signs don't even mention disabled badge holders despite there being nine clearly designated spaces. I've contacted the Housing Association and they have not engaged with my enquiry and are now refusing to discuss the matter further. I'll deal with them by making a formal complaint but the important thing is that I deal with the PCNs. 

If anyone has advice on how to appeal two PCNs on my car and one on my mother's car I'd be really grateful. Thanks very much.

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