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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: thanks4helping on February 17, 2026, 02:56:27 am
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Sorry if I missed that you had already received the NTO.
Pl post here.
There's no point paying at present because it's the full penalty which is the same should you appeal to an adjudicator.
You should at least make formal reps which we can help draft.
Latest date for NTO dated 10 Feb. is 11 April, so you have plenty of time.
Hi thank you for your help! Below is a link for the NTO. kind regards
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ORTid8tUeRDe1XIW5FJBGjb6gB65Ixci/view?usp=drivesdk
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Sorry if I missed that you had already received the NTO.
Pl post here.
There's no point paying at present because it's the full penalty which is the same should you appeal to an adjudicator.
You should at least make formal reps which we can help draft.
Latest date for NTO dated 10 Feb. is 11 April, so you have plenty of time.
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Questions:
Does the later clarification suggest the original PCN location was insufficient?
No, because the PCN was served to your car, so you are assumed to know where your car is. For the later Notice to Owner it might not be OK, because the owner may not have been driving.
Does the delay beyond the stated 21 working days carry any relevance?
No, there is no statutory period to reply to informal reps. However, 56 days is max for replying to reps against a Notice to Owner
Is the incorrect vehicle colour of any significance when taken with the above?
None whatever
Thank you for your reply. Is there anything I can do or should I just pay it:(
Kind regards
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Their rejection letter is dated 25 November 2025.
So..
Are you the registered keeper;
Are your V5C details current?
I ask because the Notice to Owner would usually have been issued by now as you're over 3 months down the line since the PCN was issued.
Hi thank you for your reply. V5c details are correct and there wasn't any changes since buying the car on 2024.
Rejection letter date: 25/11/2025
Notice to woner date: 10/02/2026
Kind regards
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Their rejection letter is dated 25 November 2025.
So..
Are you the registered keeper;
Are your V5C details current?
I ask because the Notice to Owner would usually have been issued by now as you're over 3 months down the line since the PCN was issued.
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Questions:
Does the later clarification suggest the original PCN location was insufficient?
No, because the PCN was served to your car, so you are assumed to know where your car is. For the later Notice to Owner it might not be OK, because the owner may not have been driving.
Does the delay beyond the stated 21 working days carry any relevance?
No, there is no statutory period to reply to informal reps. However, 56 days is max for replying to reps against a Notice to Owner
Is the incorrect vehicle colour of any significance when taken with the above?
None whatever
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I was attending a nearby wedding late in the evening. Parking in the area is extremely limited and at the time there were several other vehicles parked on the same grass verge (visible in the council photos). I am in this area regularly and it is common to see vehicles parked there, with no enforcement, which is why I am seeking advice.
Details:
PCN issued by Barnet for contravention 62G (wheels on grass verge).
Original PCN location stated only “Charter Way N3”, which is a long road with multiple verges, not enough to identify the exact spot.
on 16/11/25 I submitted an informal challenge on that basis.
The online acknowledgement said I would receive a response within 21 working days, but the reply arrived by email and more than 2 month later (21/01/26).
When they eventually rejected, they for the first time provided a precise location (“junction with A406, opposite Finchley United Synagogue”).
The rejection letter is dated earlier than the date it was actually emailed to me.
The PCN also records the vehicle colour as black, whereas my car is blue.
location on google street: https://maps.app.goo.gl/wZ2xvEsxT6ro5uWx9
Questions:
Does the later clarification suggest the original PCN location was insufficient?
Does the delay beyond the stated 21 working days carry any relevance?
Is the incorrect vehicle colour of any significance when taken with the above?
As its my first time here, any guidance and advice will be very much appreciated!! thanks in advance
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