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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: maxxxpayne on February 07, 2026, 02:58:06 pm

Title: Re: [Haringey] Barratt Avenue N22 (junction Park Avenue) (SS16) school street
Post by: Incandescent on February 07, 2026, 11:37:27 pm

OK, I see the advance sign that you say was obscured by a large van. The sign itself is ridiculously small too. However, the killer photo is this: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/KXd1NfaQqBSbUa57A
The signs are so place as to be totally side-on until the turn is started and even then may not be visible from a vehicle. Obviously they are visible from their CCTV camera !! If those signs had been place further back by the end of the raised area, they would be more visible and harder to claim not seeable.

If it were me, I'd be taking them all the way. You must emphasise the placement of the signs, as well as mentioning the advance sign was obscured. If you had been turning right, you'd have a harder task convincing an adjudicator: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/dGpQVrQcxx5na3Gq9
Contrast the two views, one a left turn approach and the other a right turn. Useful to show both to an adjudicator, I think.

Title: [Haringey] Barratt Avenue N22 (junction Park Avenue) (SS16) school street
Post by: maxxxpayne on February 07, 2026, 02:58:06 pm

Hi Everyone,

We're trying to see if we should play out or not. Here's the PCN:


(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/19/75/pkvbD3mZ_t.jpg) (https://imgbox.com/pkvbD3mZ)




The driver entered a school street on this occasion while the enforcement time was in place at 9:06 AM.

There's a road side sign on the nearside approximately 30 meters away, however on this occasion a large van/delivery vehicle partially obstructed the sign and the driver failed to see this. Worse, the signage on the entrance from near side is almost impossible to see as they are not angled or anything like that for the approaching vehicles, and the driver missed this too.

Once inside, even if the driver could tell, here would be now way to tell as the street is one way and backing out of the street was not an option either due to traffic on the road.

(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/6a/3d/O1hFqcqZ_t.jpg) (https://imgbox.com/O1hFqcqZ)

(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/6d/a6/sAMpQjnP_t.jpg) (https://imgbox.com/sAMpQjnP)

(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/3e/24/0Ymng7yk_t.jpg) (https://imgbox.com/0Ymng7yk)

(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/3a/e0/lZmhiJti_t.png) (https://imgbox.com/lZmhiJti)

Finally a video of the contravention.

https://youtu.be/8Dq2AXhTK40