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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: strange133 on February 04, 2026, 07:48:29 am
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Signs are in GSV in 2024, so very unlikely they weren't there when you went through. 2 on the left and one on the right, and there is no bus or other high vehicle to block view on the video, so argument they were not visible would appear to have no legs. Others may comment on whether the angle of the traffic camera is a point the adjudicator might agree on.
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Hi all,
I just discovered this forum and I have already submitted my representation which I based on the lack of signage in the CCTV footage and the still images from it. The council sent a rejection letter, but I am not convinced they addressed my representation properly as they just said that they noted my comment about the signage not being clear (when in fact I made no claim about visibility) and simply said the signage was clear and sent images of the site taken 1 week after the alleged contravention. They provided no evidence that the signs were even there at the time of the alleged contravention, let alone if they were adequately visible. Any advice on taking this to the tribunal is appreciated.
Original PCN: https://imgpile.com/p/5lspw7K
CCTV footage: https://imgpile.com/p/6OqPj6t
I submitted the following representation: "I write to formally challenge the Penalty Charge Notice issued for the alleged contravention 50R – Performing a prohibited turn (no right turn). The council bears the burden of proving that the alleged contravention occurred. However, upon reviewing the photographic and video evidence provided, I note that none of the images or footage show any traffic signs in situ indicating a prohibition of a right turn at the location and time in question. Without clear evidence of the relevant traffic signs being present, visible, and compliant with the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions (TSRGD), it is impossible to establish that a contravention took place.
The existence and proper positioning of lawful and visible signage form an essential element of the alleged contravention. The council’s failure to include this evidence means it has not discharged its evidential burden. In the absence of proof that adequate and lawful signage was in place at the time and location that the alleged contravention occurred, the PCN cannot be sustained, and the alleged contravention cannot be said to have occurred. The council had the opportunity and obligation to provide such evidence at the outset, and failure to do so cannot now be remedied retrospectively. Given that none of the supplied evidence depicts the required traffic signs, it is highly unlikely that an independent adjudicator at London Tribunals would find the evidence sufficient to support the alleged contravention. Accordingly, I respectfully request that this Penalty Charge Notice be cancelled forthwith and that written confirmation of cancellation be provided."
Notice of rejection: https://imgpile.com/p/ZWT7tOM
GSV of location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/3vdF6GKqmvZfWMXGA