Free Traffic Legal Advice

Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: MT126 on January 31, 2026, 09:51:39 am

Title: Re: Brent Council PCN
Post by: stamfordman on February 01, 2026, 10:25:17 pm

You mean the date of the PCN is 28/10/25 I presume.

This is way out of time - I expect there's a lease firm involved, so you'll need to ask your company to confirm this and procedure with PCNs. If your company is the keeper then the PCN can be easily challenged by them

Title: Re: Brent Council PCN
Post by: MT126 on February 01, 2026, 09:44:03 pm

Hi yes, date of the letter is 28/10/25.
And its directed to my company.

Title: Re: Brent Council PCN
Post by: stamfordman on February 01, 2026, 05:25:12 pm

You've given us very little to go on.

What is the date of that PCN? Not the contravention, the date it was issued.

And it was in the name of your company?

Title: Re: Brent Council PCN
Post by: MT126 on February 01, 2026, 04:02:44 pm

https://imgpile.com/p/FX7a3Jk

Title: Re: Brent Council PCN
Post by: MT126 on January 31, 2026, 07:57:16 pm

(https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U991a76TX3QDMsb7giAP9eIHqi_-HGGg/view?usp=drivesdk)


(https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U991a76TX3QDMsb7giAP9eIHqi_-HGGg/view?usp=drivesdk)

Title: Re: Brent Council PCN
Post by: John U.K. on January 31, 2026, 06:51:17 pm

Pleasse post up docs as requested.

Title: Re: Brent Council PCN
Post by: MT126 on January 31, 2026, 05:37:45 pm

Name and address on the PCN is my employer. Unsure about who has the logbooks, presumably us.

Title: Re: Brent Council PCN
Post by: Incandescent on January 31, 2026, 12:37:01 pm

Who was driving is irrelevant.

So you need to somehow track where the first PCN would have gone. five months seems a very long time for the original PCN to be cancelled and a second one served to you. But the periods are based on 28 days, so 28 days to serve the 1st PCN, then 28 days for a response, then council consider reps, and cancel 1st PCN, then 28 days to serve a new PCN. It all adds up.

Title: Re: Brent Council PCN
Post by: stamfordman on January 31, 2026, 10:58:54 am

If the vehicles are leased the lease firm will be the registered keeper and a delay can occur owing to them making reps naming the hirer.

So what name and address is on the PCN and who holds the logbook in their name.

Title: Re: Brent Council PCN
Post by: John U.K. on January 31, 2026, 10:45:43 am

Welcome to FTLA.

For meaningful advice please to have a read of

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/.

and post up here copies (not transcripts) of

all sides of the PCN,
your challenge,
their response and any other correspondence to/from council,
any council photos/video,
and
a GSV link to the location.


Only redact yr name & address from documents - leave all else in.

Title: Brent Council PCN
Post by: MT126 on January 31, 2026, 09:51:39 am

Recoeved a PCN for turning right at left turn only.

The vehicle is part of a fleet and there is no saying who was driving at the time.

We recieved the PCN by letter in November but the violation was committed in June, as stated on the PCN.

I appealed it explaining that how would we know who was driving 5 months ago.

We have now(January) received another letter stating the Registered keeper is liable and responsible.

I belive this is correct but do We have an argument here with the now 7 month delay?