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Title: Re: PCN 53j Newham, East Ham manor way/ Cyprus Pl e6. Inadequate signage?
Post by: Incandescent on January 20, 2026, 03:01:32 pm
The advance sign is poor, because it doesn't indicate the turn is off the mini-roundabout, it could be a turn beyond the roundabout.
Title: PCN 53j Newham, East Ham manor way/ Cyprus Pl e6. Inadequate signage?
Post by: anomalous on January 20, 2026, 02:19:07 pm
Good Afternoon,

A PCN has been issued for a new moving traffic contravention zone. I regularly use this street and have been surprised that with almost no visual changes, it has become a pedestrian only zone at school start/end times.

This zone begins on the 2nd exit of a roundabout.
My primary legal argument is that the pre-warning sign on the approach to the roundabout says no right turn at certain times. I feel like this is ambiguous as it shows a straight road with a right turn junction, and is therefore more likely to apply to the straight road along the first exit. The sign does not indicate that the 2nd exit of the roundabout is the beginning of a pedestrian zone. I believe that the signage is incorrect and therefore constitutes insufficient.

(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/vXDagQj_xl.jpeg) Approach signage

(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/I4LFQHr_xl.jpeg) Beginning of zone:

(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/u9bRPPU_xl.jpeg). PCN front

(https://cdn.imgpile.com/f/sCdYdoH_xl.jpeg). PCN Evidence.         
         
       








Link to Google maps
https://maps.app.goo.gl/hLKhMR4pPcUC2sc3A
I believe the zone to be as new as December 2025.

Aside from the incorrect signage argument, I also feel that there is insufficient signage to indicate a pedestrian only zone. I feel there should be on road markings and larger signage, but am not sure on the legal basis of this as an argument.

My final contest is that after driving into the zone, I took the first immediate left turn and rerouted myself, leaving the zone the way I came in, and never going past the school which the zone has been implemented for. Unsure if this is grounds for argument.

I appreciate any input and help on my situation.
Thanks,
Dave