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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Dholi93 on January 08, 2026, 03:03:11 pm
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If relevant, these are screenshots of options when appealing PCN online.
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Before you do anything please screenshot their website.
1. The PCN does not particularise which vehicles.
2. Similarly, neither do the images nor the video provided.
4. The PCN contains one invalid ground re the Traffic Order being invalid.
5. Your website contains 3 invalid grounds.
Thanks for the advice above, just to be clear, what part of the website am I screenshotting? The details of the PCN or a separate area of the Havering website covering details on this traffic order?
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Before you do anything please screenshot their website.
1. The PCN does not particularise which vehicles.
2. Similarly, neither do the images nor the video provided.
3. The PCN is invalid as it is missing mandatory information as provided at Para. 4 (8 ) (v) of https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/section/4/enacted
· (v)that, if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the 28 day period, an increased charge may be payable.
Clearly, this refers to Para. 4 (8 ) (iii):
· (iii)that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of the period of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice;
4. The PCN contains one invalid ground re the Traffic Order being invalid.
5. Your website contains 3 invalid grounds.
In light of the above, please cancel the PCN.
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Car is leased
So I assume from this is that you do not hold the V5C Registration Certificate. If this is the case, the first postal PCN would have been sent to the lease company, who would seem to have submitted representations that they were a lease company, and provided your name and address as the lessee on the contravention date. The PCN is therefore likely to have been served with the 28 days allowed from the date the first PCN was cancelled by the council.
So if you want to fight it, I suggest you use the same argument presented in the case you refer to. This is a well known location and I think we've seen it on this forum a few time, and on Pepipoo before that forum closed. The signs are set well back from the camera: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/86YwqwBxtnLyBCJt5
and of course are ambiguous because of the sub-sign "Except for Access"
I see from the London Tribunals case that Hippocrates represented the appellant, so hopefully he'll post soon.
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Car is leased
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Served way out of time
Contravention 08/11/2025 Day 1
Date of Notice 18/12/2025
Date Served 22/12/2025 Day 45
So it seems, but is the car leased or hired ?
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Served way out of time
Contravention 08/11/2025 Day 1
Date of Notice 18/12/2025
Date Served 22/12/2025 Day 45
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I have one too. Do not pay. Back later with a draft.
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Just got back from being away during the holidays to find this lovely late xmas present in the post.
<a href="https://ibb.co/zHj2McPC"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/R4Z6FnQt/PCN-Havering.jpg" alt="PCN Havering" border="0"></a>
I'm a little bit short on time with the response as I only just opened the letter today, but doing a quick search on this forum revealed there was an identical contravention on the same street just over a year ago that went to appeal and was overturned.
<a href="https://ibb.co/zT3XxZLf"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/pBHfwdsX/Media.jpg" alt="Media" border="0"></a>
Video shows little more that can be seen in this picture, a vehicle being driven down this road with no clear signage indicating that it shouldn't be there.
Location: https://maps.app.goo.gl/2gti94Upp7ymq8Bz9
The other post I'm referencing is https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/havering-council-no-evidence-of-pcn-contravention-shown-in-video-footage/
Wondering if there's anything in particular that makes my case different to that one and I'm actually just in the wrong here and need to pay up.
Appreciate any advice on this.