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Title: Re: Haringey Council - Broadwater Road, N17 - Contravention 52(M) Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types
Post by: Hippocrates on January 13, 2026, 07:53:55 pm
I have a technical appeal which they will reject but, if you have the guts, I will help you all the way.
Title: Re: Haringey Council - Broadwater Road, N17 - Contravention 52(M) Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types
Post by: Incandescent on January 13, 2026, 06:27:52 pm
Hi, thanks for your response.

I am going ahead with an informal appeal with the 14 day period. I have had a PCN cancelled by Haringey previously when I had a flat caused by a Haringey pothole, so there are not totally heartless.

Will post their reply when received.
Your representations are not informal, they are formal because there is only one opportuity to submit them , then the next stage is London Tribunals.
Title: Re: Haringey Council - Broadwater Road, N17 - Contravention 52(M) Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types
Post by: TonyHam on January 13, 2026, 02:47:36 pm
Hi, thanks for your response.

I am going ahead with an informal appeal with the 14 day period. I have had a PCN cancelled by Haringey previously when I had a flat caused by a Haringey pothole, so there are not totally heartless.

Will post their reply when received.
Title: Re: Haringey Council - Broadwater Road, N17 - Contravention 52(M) Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types
Post by: Incandescent on January 05, 2026, 05:45:31 pm
Well, with no advance signing shown in the March 2023 GSV view, I think you do have a case of inadequate signage of the restriction. I say this because Broadwater Road goes off from The Avenue at a fairly sharp acute angle, meaning the signs are much more visible to those turning left; see here: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/8hhfpg2rZKBFYcav9

However, Haringey are very unlikely to give way, so you'd be forced to take them to London Tribunals. If you do this, it would be almost essential that you check that there are no advance warning signs on the approach you took. You have to cover all angles at adjudication, in fact I would include absence of advance warning plus the almost side-on aspect of the restriction signs in your reps to Haringey. This will make sure we can see if they consider this or not. However, are you prepared to risk the full PCN penalty at London Tribunals ? THere are no additional costs if you go that far, and of course if you win there is nothing to pay.
Title: Haringey Council - Broadwater Road, N17 - Contravention 52(M) Failing to comply with a prohibition on certain types of v
Post by: TonyHam on January 05, 2026, 03:25:06 pm
Hi all,

I am hoping there is a way to appeal this PCN. From what I gather this is a fairly new contravention, which has been applied to generate funds for the council.

Basically, you now need to have a permit  or be a bus to use Broadwater Road.

I approached from The Avenue, and turned right onto Broadwater Road. It was dark when on the day in question, and I saw not signage at the time.

After looking on Google maps I can see there was no signage warning of a prohibition right turns on the approach to Broadwater Road, you would only see any signs as you turn into the road, at which point it would be too late.

I also noted there was not lighting on the signs either, which would be needed as this is a very dark area.

I can’t help but think there is insufficient signage for this contravention.

Can anyone help?

PCN:

https://imgpile.com/p/eltldK6#KO5HtaT


Approach to right turn from The Avenue:

https://imgpile.com/p/eltldK6#XCW7R23



Right turn on to Broadwater Road signage:

https://imgpile.com/p/eltldK6#3IhhABg



Thanks :)

Tony