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Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: ZerkerEOD on February 13, 2026, 03:12:18 pm
Very well could be.
Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: jfollows on February 13, 2026, 03:08:10 pm
Well done, and thank you for letting us know.
My suspicion is that, given the law change, they really aren’t too bothered by ditching cases like yours in the knowledge that their money collection machine will continue to function under the new laws.
Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: ZerkerEOD on February 13, 2026, 03:02:05 pm
Major update, and I think I hit the lottery with luck and that I need to go play in the casino's today.

My second letter came in today and I was like great, it is going to be another rejection and I will just ignore it along with any other letters that come through. So I opened it and to my surprise the letter was accepting my appeal and mentioned that any further issues will be taken into account that I already had an exception so that it will hold.

So out of curiosity, I called the number on the line and got someone and I asked to speak to the person that had their name on the letter for approval and was told that she wasnt in at the moment, so I decided, what the hell and explained that for some reason I submitted the same proof for both and the second one was approved and the first one was rejected.

To my surprise they looked at it, saw the first payment proof and also accepted the appeal. So I am good to go now and they sent an email approval as proof. Time to go to the casino!
Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: jfollows on February 10, 2026, 12:37:35 pm
You will get utterly useless letters from debt collectors, who have absolutely no power whatsoever. Just tell us who they are. They are well known here.
Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: ZerkerEOD on February 10, 2026, 12:31:59 pm
What do you mean by “threat of collections”?

The second page on paragraph 2 states that if they don’t hear back they will pass it onto their clients debt collection agency.
Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: jfollows on February 10, 2026, 12:29:40 pm
What do you mean by “threat of collections”?
Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: ZerkerEOD on February 10, 2026, 12:10:15 pm
What about the threat of collections? I’ll check the AS portal and if they don’t require the identity of the driver then I’ll be a pain for them. I don’t know how they can open a debt against someone for owning a vehicle when no driver is identified and their message clearly states that it is the liability of the driver.
Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: DWMB2 on February 10, 2026, 11:59:16 am
AS Parking - I forgot all about them! They're (somehow) even more useless than the other independent appeals services.

It's up to you how you want to proceed - you can either simply ignore all correspondence from Saba until the matter 'times out' after 6 months, or, if you want to be a minor pain in their side, submit a detailed appeal to AS Parking, as the keeper only on the last day of the 28 days given, to string the process out for SABA. Only do this if AS' portal doesn't force you to identify the driver.
Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: ZerkerEOD on February 10, 2026, 09:40:08 am
So I got the first response from them and expect another one to come any day now. They pretty much claim that it is the drivers responsibility but they don't know who was driving so now it is my responsibility...

So what is my next step in responding? They said the next step is asparking which I guess isn't really an independent parking association so we know they will ignore the facts as well. They also said by law they have to tell me about the Ombudsman Service, but they don't participate. So what is my next step?

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Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: ZerkerEOD on January 16, 2026, 10:09:07 am
I added the reference number and made the adjustments and sent the first one yesterday and I will send the second one today! Thanks for the advice, and I will update when I hear back because I know I will hear back.
Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: ZerkerEOD on January 14, 2026, 05:24:55 pm
Ideal - responding as late as possible is never a bad idea for the reason above of stringing things out.

Does the message sound good though showing that it was paid but assigned to a different registration number?
Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: DWMB2 on January 14, 2026, 03:17:30 pm
Ideal - responding as late as possible is never a bad idea for the reason above of stringing things out.
Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: ZerkerEOD on January 14, 2026, 03:12:34 pm
Thanks, I’ll get that changed. I don’t know the law changed but luckily the fine is from before it.

Tomorrow is my last day to respond though in the time limit.
Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: roythebus on January 14, 2026, 01:54:36 pm
I suggest you change this."I noticed that the parking did not start in" to "it was noticed that".

You're close to revoking the driver! You're lucky inasmuch as the law was changed on the 28th December to make railway property "relevant land" under POFA! It cannot be applied retrospectively. You'll not be paying anything. But wait for further confirmation from others before you hit the send button. Maybe leave it a few weeks to string out the 6 months.

You will no doubt get scarey letters from debt collectors, they are good for cat litter if nothing else.

Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: ZerkerEOD on January 14, 2026, 01:27:41 pm
Is this satisfactory to show that it was paid while still hitting the notices?

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Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: InterCity125 on January 13, 2026, 12:14:29 pm
Remember to appeal as Keeper.

They have no idea who the driver was and you're not just about to tell them.
Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: DWMB2 on January 13, 2026, 11:12:20 am
Yes you could do this.

If you are unable to appeal online due to that driver requirement the other option is to send it by post - this will cost you £1.70 but will at least circumvent their naff form.

Try their complaints email as an alternative.
Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: ZerkerEOD on January 13, 2026, 10:37:48 am
Take a look at this recent case involving Saba - Topic: Penalty Notice from Saba for not paying for parking (https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/penalty-notice-from-saba-for-not-paying-for-parking/). You can take a similar approach yourself. The intent here is essentially to string the matter out so that it goes past the 6 month period they have to prosecute (not that they ever would prosecute, as they don't get any money from that).

Thanks, is there a way to contact them that isn't through their online portal, as I don't believe they can force someone to compel who was driving, but the online form appears to require an answer for it. I found this while looking (https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/saba-parking-charge-re-failure-to-obtain-a-valid-ticket/15/ (https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/saba-parking-charge-re-failure-to-obtain-a-valid-ticket/15/)), would this also be viable to send the email to their DPO or was that bad advice? If so, I will send my first one tomorrow as it is the day before the last day I think and then the next one probably Saturday.
Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: DWMB2 on January 09, 2026, 09:19:03 am
Take a look at this recent case involving Saba - Topic: Penalty Notice from Saba for not paying for parking (https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/penalty-notice-from-saba-for-not-paying-for-parking/). You can take a similar approach yourself. The intent here is essentially to string the matter out so that it goes past the 6 month period they have to prosecute (not that they ever would prosecute, as they don't get any money from that).
Title: Re: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: ZerkerEOD on January 09, 2026, 09:12:21 am
Anyone have anything to help? I am really worried about this.
Title: Saba Parking PCN - Paid Wrong Plate x2 (Trust) - Train Station, Northampton
Post by: ZerkerEOD on January 05, 2026, 11:45:43 am
I am the registered owner of a vehicle that received two PCNs, one received on Dec 18 for a Dec 11 offense and one on Dec 22 for a Dec 13 offense. The registered driver paid through the trust application but incorrectly entered the registration details (turned a V into a Z but the rest of the plate was correct). I have uploaded both PCNs along with the back of one since it was the same on both. I am assuming they got my details as the registered owner through DVLA already.

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The driver had to use the train station both days and wasn't aware there was an issue in how they entered the registration until these PCNs started to arrive. The drive has since resolved the issue through the Trust app. For note, the Trust app did not register the vehicle when entering, and the driver assumed it was an issue in the system and, before leaving the car park for the day, manually paid through the Trust app.

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It looks like I have until Jan 14 for the first one and then Jan 18 for the second one, which is a Sunday. What defense would I, as the registered keeper, have? I read the start here post and see that I have no obligation to disclose who was driving. However, when I went to initially dispute the PCN through their site, it appeared they required a box to state who was driving to dispute it through the online portal. Does that mean I need to mail a letter, as they don't have an email address to send anything? Any help would be appreciated.