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Title: Re: Lambeth council - contravention 37J - Salters Hill
Post by: Hippocrates on December 25, 2025, 08:00:41 pm
Teams.
Title: Re: Lambeth council - contravention 37J - Salters Hill
Post by: HappyDriver01 on December 25, 2025, 12:08:52 pm
Thank you. I've put my appeal and cited 3 contentions.

1) A high sided vehicle obstructed my view.

2) I passed the transverse lines

3) the video evidence is not conclusive.

Is the hearing in person or via zoom/ Teams?

Thanks
Title: Re: Lambeth council - contravention 37J - Salters Hill
Post by: Hippocrates on December 22, 2025, 09:03:28 pm
Their website is also a magic key.
Title: Re: Lambeth council - contravention 37J - Salters Hill
Post by: Incandescent on December 22, 2025, 05:49:37 pm
Yes it is, and a look reveals that you had passed the give-way line on your side of the bridge when the approaching vehicle, (that you couldn't see due to the bulk of the Waitrose van) had only just turned in to Salter's Hill. The council's position is that you should give way when a vehicle enters Salters Hill from the other direction which is total tosh. The give-way length is that lying between the give-way line on your side, and this sign on the other side: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/JSTvgzG6pRg75iZz8
This is just under 38 metres, and the distance from the give-way line to the entrance to Salters Hill from Gypsy Road is just under 79 metres, so there is 41 metres between the entrance to Salters Hill from Gypsy Road to the sign giving precedance. The speed limit here is 20 mph.  As you can see, they deliberately use a camera that squashes the perspective.

However, you can only test the matter at London Tribunals because this is such a 'nice little earner' they refuse all representations to make sure the money rolls in. They know that >95% of people getting a PCN here just cough up to get t h e discount, not knowing the law on locations like this, that are all over the UK, but ruthlessly enforced only in Lambeth.

What I suggest is you look at the London Tribunals Statutory Register  using Salters Hill as your search argument and look at the cases than come up.
https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/about/registers-appeals

Title: Re: Lambeth council - contravention 37J - Salters Hill
Post by: HappyDriver01 on December 22, 2025, 03:16:59 pm
You need to make your link public

Thanks Richard. It should be public now?
Title: Re: Lambeth council - contravention 37J - Salters Hill
Post by: RichardW on December 22, 2025, 09:40:15 am
You need to make your link public
Title: Lambeth council - contravention 37J - Salters Hill
Post by: HappyDriver01 on December 22, 2025, 03:18:29 am
Hi,

I'll be grateful for urgent assistance. I've got the pcn, the council rejected my informal representation. I have until today 22nd December to either make payment at the reduced rate or appeal.

My thoughts are I passed the traverse line and entered the priority area before the oncoming car arrived.

Please can you guys have a look at the vid and let me know what you think. I'm the black range rover behind the waitrose van.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cVQb8BW7cUh_xel7JsU4GY4d8Q-ZRL2C/view?usp=drivesdk


Thanks