Free Traffic Legal Advice
Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: joshua.rowen.press@googlemail.com on December 21, 2025, 11:32:00 pm
-
Page missing? Need to see it. Failure to consider.
-
Hi there response received :
https://imgpile.com/p/lOYmDWG#oB4oJPK
I mentioned to charge certificate, and they ignored that point.
Best,
JP
-
I am in the exact same position as the OP. Just received the pcn. Will make a new post
-
Please copy and paste my blunt post above and weave it in.
-
I am writing to formally make representations against the above Penalty Charge Notice.
I dispute that the alleged contravention occurred.
The restriction at Rye Lane junction with Copeland Road is not adequately signed so as to give a motorist clear and sufficient advance warning of the prohibition. The signage is easy to miss in moving traffic, particularly at this busy junction, and does not allow a driver reasonable opportunity to safely divert before entering the restricted area.
In addition, the camera enforcement image provided does not demonstrate that the vehicle passed clear, compliant signage positioned in accordance with the Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions. I put the council to strict proof that all signage at this location is lawful, correctly positioned, fully visible, and adequately maintained.
Further, I note that under the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003, enforcement must be suspended while representations are under consideration. Please confirm that no Charge Certificate has been or will be issued during this statutory period.
In light of the above, I request that this Penalty Charge Notice be cancelled. Should the council reject these representations, please treat this letter as a request for the full CCTV footage, the Traffic Management Order for this restriction, and confirmation of signage compliance.
Yours faithfully,
-
Post yr draft here first, and wait for @Hippocrates to comment.
-
Thank you Hippocrates, I will appeal this PCN today on those grounds. I presume i should keep the wording simple, is there anything I should reference in particular ?
-
There is an advance sign: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/TP8zc4UWm5XwKoWA7
Loking at GSV, I'm sure we're seen this location before but I can't remember what the outcome was assuming it got to London Tribunals. A search of their statutory register might turn up something.
-
For convenience:
(https://i.ibb.co/bj5xzHR9/5526a53c-5b9e-4a9c-ad61-522deb4f6b4f.jpg) (https://ibb.co/1YG38sJW)
It is a ground of appeal. Be guided by @Hippocrates , who has considerable experience in dealing with Southwark. but do not miss deadlines.
-
Thank you for your reply, is this ground for appeal? Apologies if this is something I’ve miss understood.
I was looking to appeal the PCN as it was only possible to see the signage at the very last minute, even then I could barely read it.
-
A charge certificate CANNOT be sent until 28 days from the date of service of the PCN.
-
Thank so much John. All info with a redacted address below.
GSV:
https://maps.app.goo.gl/KgTUevSKpKw7zc9g8
Images:
https://ibb.co/1YG38sJW
https://ibb.co/YTcvZRJJ
https://ibb.co/9k15nTjk
https://ibb.co/8DNdn6HP
-
Welcome to FTLA.
N.B. I've modified yr opening post to remove PCN image with yr name & address - see below.
For meaningful advice please have a read of
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
and post up here
(use
ibb.co (https://imgbb.com/) or https://imgpile.com/
for posting images.
Wherever possible, use the BBCode.)
all sides of the PCN (only redact yr name & address - leave everything else in),
any council photos/video,
and
a GSV link to the location.
-
Hi there,
The signage for the restricted street came on me very suddenly before I had the opportunity to turn off, are there any valid ground for challenging this PCN?
Best,
Joshua