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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: trewsie on December 19, 2025, 10:14:01 am
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See 1st link in my profile re the PCN. Best to put something in as they tend not to contest at the Tribunal.
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Bump!
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we were following the sat nav in the car
Oh dear, oh dear, how often do we see this ! Don't put this in your reps, but concentrate on the signage issue. Councils have a duty under Regulation 18 of The Local Authorities’ Traffic Orders (Procedure) (England and Wales) Regulations 1996 to erect adequate signage for an restriction.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1996/2489/regulation/18
GSV of your approch to the signs shows you could have a case of obscuration of the signs:-
https://maps.app.goo.gl/YhjayY5QNtACifPt7
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https://ibb.co/fYbQm3Sz
https://ibb.co/Q3q3RWw5
https://ibb.co/3ymVttK6
https://ibb.co/HDVCq0KZ
https://ibb.co/prJ9gz7Q
https://ibb.co/LdgXg0f1
Hopefully the above links to the PCN and associated evidence
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Welcome to FTLA. For meaningful advice please have a read of
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
and post up here
(use
ibb.co (https://imgbb.com/) or https://imgpile.com/
for posting images.
Wherever possible, use the BBCode.)
all sides of the PCN (only redact yr name & address - leave everything else in),
any council photos/video,
and
a GSV link to the location.
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Hi,
I've got a PCN for entering an LTN in Greenwich (St Johns Park/Vanburgh Park). It is a timed low traffic neighbourhood - Mon to Fri 7am-10am and 3pm-7pm - so no physical barriers
I was on Strathdean Road and turned left into St Johns Park, which I've subsequently learnt is not allowed. It was about 6pm and dark with roadworks on Strathdean Road and we didn't see a sign at all. Being unfamiliar with the area, we were following the sat nav in the car which directed us this way.
The evidence provided with the PCN is of us exiting the LTN - so the signage facing our direction of travel which we would not have seen. There is no photo evidence of us entering the LTN.
From looking at streetview, there is one small sign on Strathdean Road but in the dark and with the roadworks we simply didn't see it.
Would welcome any advice on appealing. Should we mention all three things (following sat nav, lack of evidence and insufficient signage) or just focus on one? Has anyone successfully appealed a PCN with LB Greenwich.
This is where we entered the LTN https://maps.app.goo.gl/dTcT19gorPX2J2Ur6
But this is where the photo evidence is from https://maps.app.goo.gl/Ax5uZK4Ub8h4Skba7
Thanks!