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Title: Re: St Andrews Road E17/Lowther R, 53c Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a p
Post by: fox10 on December 19, 2025, 06:25:36 pm

 I will ask her when she is back from work but I guess we don't have a leg to stand on then for this one? Thanks

Title: Re: St Andrews Road E17/Lowther R, 53c Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian and cycle
Post by: fox10 on December 18, 2025, 08:36:35 pm

Please see below - the other pages:

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Title: Re: St Andrews Road E17/Lowther R, 53c Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian and cycle
Post by: Hippocrates on December 18, 2025, 05:13:18 pm

PCN: all pages please.

Title: Re: St Andrews Road E17/Lowther R, 53c Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian and cycle
Post by: Incandescent on December 18, 2025, 08:30:15 am

Oh dear, how many times do we see the words "following satnav". These devices are never up-to-date and one must always look out for signs. Did she not notice the 'Flying Motorbike' signs ?

Title: Re: St Andrews Road E17/Lowther R, 53c Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian and cycle
Post by: fox10 on December 18, 2025, 12:39:44 am

Thanks @Incandescent I have spoken to the Mrs and she said she was following the sat nav which didn't have the restiction marked - it was a route she doesn't normally take but was directed down the road due to traffic.  apparently she approached the junction straight (from the left) down St Andrews from Blackhorse lane

Title: Re: St Andrews Road E17/Lowther R, 53c Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian and cycle
Post by: Incandescent on December 17, 2025, 11:03:55 pm

There isn't any video of the allege contravention on the WF website. Can you please tell us if it was a left or a right turn into the restricted street.

Any reason at all for the wrong turn, on what one would think is so regular as to be an "autopilot" journey ?

Here is a view of the road junction concerned.The signs are covered over, which indicates either that the restriction had yet to be implemented, (needed TRO), or it was not term time, so the council have put in signs with cover plates that can be opened to reveal the restriction :- 
https://maps.app.goo.gl/MFevAJejTmBRqhhv6

The PCN photo shows your car driving into the restriction with the school sign. There is not advance signage on the "free" approaches, but if one drives  head-on past a restriction sign, it is difficult to convince an adjudicator one didn't see the sign.

Title: St Andrews Road E17/Lowther R, 53c Failing to comply with a restriction on vehicles entering a pedestrian and cycle zone
Post by: fox10 on December 17, 2025, 10:37:44 pm

Good evening,

I hope you are well

My wife has just received the attached PCN when she took a wrong turn on the way home from work - is there any scope for an appeal?  Any assistance much appreciated, thanks

(https://i.postimg.cc/prB2Pk4d/LBWF-PCN-PAGE-1.jpg)

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