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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: almep13 on December 12, 2025, 11:22:03 pm
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Good evening Hippocrates,
Thank you for the link and your valuable comments.
Kind regards,
Almep13
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This is extrapolation of the urine.
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Good morning Incandescent and thank you for your comments.
I agree with you. However, with Local Authority's funding being squeezed year-on-year by central government of all colours, PCNs have been a relying and increasing funding source. For councils it's a numbers game issuing as many PCNs as they can knowing that they have nothing to lose but all to gain. On a similar PCN, half of the motorist will pay straightaway, the other 30% will appeal and lose and the remaining 20% will have their appeals uphold at best.
I shall wait few days for comments before I compile a draft appeal.
Thank you once again and have a nice week-end.
Kind regards,
Almep13
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Many thanks. Why on earth did I think it was Hounslow !!!!
Yes, video shows your car fractionally in the YBJ, the wheel being clear. So I would submit reps on the basis that the contravention did not occur, de minimis, stating that the car was virtually clear of the box as the video shows the real wheel of the stopped car outside the box.
What venal and rapacious cretins they are !
There may be a 'technical'appeal as well. These are based on council mismanagement of the enforcement process, but I'm not expert on these.
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Hi Incadecent,
Thank you for the prompt response, I appreciate.
It's not Hounslow Borough, it's RBKC (Kensington & Chelsea), that's why you can't see it. Apologies, should have stated it in the title.
https://ocmlive.xrxpsc.com/rbkc/ocm-fe/ocm/Details.aspx
Kind regards,
Almep13
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Looking at your photo, taken from their video, this is the most outrageous PCN I have ever seen for a YBJ. The car is clear of the YBJ with the rear wheel only touching the yellow line, not even over it. However we need to see the video and going onto Hounslow's website, it doesn't recognise the PCN number, so has your neighbour now paid the PCN ? If he has then it is game over, sorry.
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Dear Forum members,
I hope you are all well.
This case is on behalf of my neighbour, who thought that had cleared the yellow box by looking on the right back wheel. However, it seems that the rear left wheel is not fully cleared due to yellow lines not being perpendicular with the road and barely touching the yellow line.
I attach links for the PCN and the picture of the car as below.
https://imgpile.com/p/Mq6Xoqm#DNesXbl
https://imgpile.com/p/Mq6Xoqm#2UmwOzK
I am aware of the posting by Hipocrates (thank you) regarding PCN's compliance with Para. 4 (8 ) (v) and the case won against Hounslow as per the links below. Is there any other points to use in the appeal i.e. the fact that the driver believed to have cleared the yellow box as otherwise it may have driven another few centimeters or that the left rear wheel barely touches the yellow box with no real infringement or advantage taking place or the time deminimis. However, the latter may not be a strong point as the car may have stopped for just over 5 seconds.
https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg86653/#msg86653
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mpB3obxgDkbzTrC_YbGNPC7K3vhqqKIt/view?pli=1
Thank you in advance for your time and your views.
Kind regards,
Almep13