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Live cases legal advice => Speeding and other criminal offences => Topic started by: jshell97 on December 11, 2025, 07:26:45 pm
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Until you tell us whether the company is the RK or not there’s no point in speculating.
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Next time you are in/with the van, check the glove box for anything from the lease company, any text at the bottom of the number plates and any stickers on the windows.
Not as definitive as the V5C, but might give an early heads-up.
If the V5C does materialise, what you need to check is that the details (particularly the address) are correct and current, and the issue date. The issue date can be found at the bottom of page 2, after the Doc.Ref.No. Alternatively, the date the latest V5C was issued can be found on the DVLA's website if you perform a vehicle check. If the V5C was issued after the offence date, then chances are the original NIP went elsewhere. If it was issued before your company got the vehicle, that's pretty much conclusive that your boss won't be showing you a V5C with their name and address on.
As regards whether you have a viable defence - you said it was a lease van, the timing of the NIP is consistent with that, and what your company said is inconsistent with the other two, Unless and until this V5C materialises, the answer is a flat no (on the "late NIP" front at least).
Definitely no stickers under the plates or in the van or the glove box, I’ve also asked both directors separately and have both said the same thing, they are going to provide me with the V5C tomorrow
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If I was going to stick two fingers up at the cops (and forego the chance of a course or fixed penalty) I’d want to see the V5C myself. But you do you.
Obviously if I was going to appeal I would want to see it for myself which i have already asked for, but the question I was asking is if I have a strong case to appeal
You can't appeal a NIP, you would have to take it to court, plead not guilty and raise the late NIP as a defence.
So going to court with a late NIP as my defence, would you say it’s gonna be 50/50 on the outcome cause the speed I was caught at for a commercial van was quite high for the speed limit in the zone or would this be disregarded in court. I’m trying to weigh up my options I don’t really want the 3 points and fine but at the same time don’t really wanna be hit with extra points and a bigger fine for loosing in court if the grounds for my defense isn’t strong enough
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Next time you are in/with the van, check the glove box for anything from the lease company, any text at the bottom of the number plates and any stickers on the windows.
Not as definitive as the V5C, but might give an early heads-up.
If the V5C does materialise, what you need to check is that the details (particularly the address) are correct and current, and the issue date. The issue date can be found at the bottom of page 2, after the Doc.Ref.No. Alternatively, the date the latest V5C was issued can be found on the DVLA's website if you perform a vehicle check. If the V5C was issued after the offence date, then chances are the original NIP went elsewhere. If it was issued before your company got the vehicle, that's pretty much conclusive that your boss won't be showing you a V5C with their name and address on.
As regards whether you have a viable defence - you said it was a lease van, the timing of the NIP is consistent with that, and what your company said is inconsistent with the other two, Unless and until this V5C materialises, the answer is a flat no (on the "late NIP" front at least).
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If I was going to stick two fingers up at the cops (and forego the chance of a course or fixed penalty) I’d want to see the V5C myself. But you do you.
Obviously if I was going to appeal I would want to see it for myself which i have already asked for, but the question I was asking is if I have a strong case to appeal
You can't appeal a NIP, you would have to take it to court, plead not guilty and raise the late NIP as a defence.
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Leaving aside that you’re not appealing… yes, if the NIP to the RK was over 14 days. Otherwise no.
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If I was going to stick two fingers up at the cops (and forego the chance of a course or fixed penalty) I’d want to see the V5C myself. But you do you.
Obviously if I was going to appeal I would want to see it for myself which i have already asked for, but the question I was asking is if I have a strong case to appeal
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If I was going to stick two fingers up at the cops (and forego the chance of a course or fixed penalty) I’d want to see the V5C myself. But you do you.
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I’m looking for abit of advice, I was recently caught speeding in a company long lease hire van...
This seems to indicate that your employer leases he van and that they are probably not the RK.
I must have been wrong on the long lease side as they are saying we are the registered keeper and have a V5C with our details on
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Many people swear blind that they’re the registered keeper but aren’t. Have you checked the V5C (and are the details correct)?
I’ve just asked the question and my employer has said that we are the registered keeper and have a V5C with there details on
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I’m looking for abit of advice, I was recently caught speeding in a company long lease hire van...
This seems to indicate that your employer leases he van and that they are probably not the RK.
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Many people swear blind that they’re the registered keeper but aren’t. Have you checked the V5C (and are the details correct)?
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The registered keeper would be my company as it is a company van, I’m just the sole insurer on the van that they pay for. I’ve tried looking online about it and everything’s abit of a grey area, I don’t fancy going to court and getting hit with more than 3 points and a bigger fine if I don’t have a strong case
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The police have 14 days to send the NIP to the registered keeper. So who is the registered keeper?
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Hi
I’m looking for abit of advice, I was recently caught speeding in a company long lease hire van on the 13/11/25 they have me on a personal insurance through the company so only I am insured on this but the van is registered to our office and in there name. My office has only just received the NIP today (11/12/25). The letter from the local police force is dated 08/12/25. I’m wondering do I have a case to appeal this as it is out of the 14 day period it states online that it has to be served.
Thanks