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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: mr_mo on December 09, 2025, 10:26:30 am
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Sorry forgot about this.
You need to send something now as deadline approaching. I would send this.
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I am repeating my initial challenge that the contravention did not occur as there was no suspension sign on the parking sign in the bay my vehicle was parked in.
I was entitled to rely on the parking sign.
In your rejection you say that 'parking signage does not need to be positioned directly adjacent to every individual bay' - which is not true as an unsigned bay is unrestricted, but in this case there was a shared use parking sign granting parking rights during controlled hours to permit holders or pay by phone users.
Should you reject my representations I put you on notice I will seek costs at the tribunal and I trust this time you will admit your error and cancel this PCN.
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Thank you I appreciate it
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I'm busy today but will tweak tomorrow.
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Hi guys would the above be a good response to the council or should I add somthing else thanks Mo
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thank you john sorry for the late reply iv been busy with work i am going to try and use another laptop and see if that might fix the issue i have also written this response.
Having reviewed the photographs, I took, it is clear that there was no suspension sign present in the bay in which I was parked. The bay behind my vehicle is shown as suspended however, there was no corresponding sign indicating that the bay I was parked in was also suspended. A reasonable motorist would conclude that, in the absence of any signage at that bay, it was not subject to suspension. On this basis, the restriction was not adequately signed, and the PCN has therefore been issued incorrectly and should be cancelled.
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They've pretty much conceded this in their rejection - I would highlight this in your reps and restate you were entitled to rely on the parking sign in your bay and there is no duty to look any further.
Draft something here.
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For some reason I cannot see your images, nor the ones I posted for you earlier.
Perhaps others can see them and/or afre able to re-post them for you.
This is the link for your NtO:
https://imgpile.com/p/HtIbEl8#Yz1kB5u
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Hi guys i have just received the notice to owner i have uploaded pictures of all the pages would there be any grounds on which i can appeal this?
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thank you for fixing it mate i was having a lot of trouble with it thanks once again
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For some reason your images only show here as empty frames (now removed), so have put here:
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Good morning hope everyone had a great christmas i have received my notice of rejection ive added it below and thank you everyone for all the help. for some reason the images are not showing up i have added the direct link.
https://imgpile.com/p/Lsch51Q
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I would amend it to:
The contravention did not occur as there was no temporary traffic order sign on the parking sign in the bay where I parked my van.
The pictures taken by your CEO do not show the location of my van in relation to any sign but I took one to show you (enclosed).
As I was entitled to rely on the parking sign the contravention did not occur and the PCN must be cancelled.
I look forward to your early confirmation.
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thank you all here's the draft I've done please let me know if any of it needs sorting.
Dear Sir or Madam,
I believe that no contravention occurred because the relevant parking restriction signage was not displayed in the bay where my vehicle was parked.
As you are aware, for a parking restriction to be enforceable, the council must ensure that adequate and clear signage is installed within or adjacent to the exact bay where the restriction applies. If signage is absent, obscured, or placed in a different bay, motorists cannot be reasonably expected to comply with restrictions that are not properly communicated.
Given that no valid signage was displayed in the bay, the restriction was not clearly conveyed, and therefore the alleged contravention cannot be enforced.
I kindly request that you review this evidence and cancel the PCN. Should you require any further information or photographs, I will be happy to provide them.
Thank you for your attention. I look forward to your confirmation that the PCN has been cancelled.
Yours faithfully,
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Post a draft here first.
The council's pics don't show your van in relation to the sign. If you were in a bay with a nearest parking sign with no temp traffic order sign then no contravention.
Newham has form in badly using temp traffic orders. I think they should actually cover the parking signs.
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Post your draft reps here for comment before sending but do not miss deadlines.
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Thank you for the help i am going to write up and send reps tonight when i get home.
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There are two bays here separated by a single yellow line. You have posted a sign with the suspension notice which seems to be the bay past the garage. So if you parked in the bay on the other side of the yellow line, the suspension notice cannot apply. If their intention was to suspend that bay as well, then they should have place a separate suspension sign on the sign for that bay too.
You should therefore submit representations that the sign for the bay in which you parked had no suspension sign on it therefore the PCN is void.
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Good Morning all I have received a pcn from Newham council but there weren't any signs up where i parked my van the night before I've attached my pictures but right now newham council are yet to upload there ones any help would be appreciated.
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