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Title: Re: Nehwam council Penge road01a parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours.
Post by: mr_mo on December 27, 2025, 10:30:13 am
thank you for fixing it mate i was having a lot of trouble with it thanks once again
Title: Re: Nehwam council Penge road01a parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours.
Post by: John U.K. on December 27, 2025, 10:23:59 am
For some reason your images only show here as empty frames (now removed), so have put here:

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Title: Re: Nehwam council Penge road 01a parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours.
Post by: mr_mo on December 27, 2025, 10:11:43 am
Good morning hope everyone had a great christmas i have received my notice of rejection ive added it below and thank you everyone for all the help. for some reason the images are not showing up i have added the direct link.

https://imgpile.com/p/Lsch51Q

Title: Re: Nehwam council Penge road01a parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours.
Post by: stamfordman on December 13, 2025, 01:14:30 pm
I would amend it to:

The contravention did not occur as there was no temporary traffic order sign on the parking sign in the bay where I parked my van.

The pictures taken by your CEO do not show the location of my van in relation to any sign but I took one to show you (enclosed).

As I was entitled to rely on the parking sign the contravention did not occur and the PCN must be cancelled.

I look forward to your early confirmation.

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Title: Re: Nehwam council Penge road01a parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours.
Post by: mr_mo on December 12, 2025, 10:39:16 am
thank you all here's the draft I've done please let me know if any of it needs sorting.

Dear Sir or Madam,
I believe that no contravention occurred because the relevant parking restriction signage was not displayed in the bay where my vehicle was parked.
As you are aware, for a parking restriction to be enforceable, the council must ensure that adequate and clear signage is installed within or adjacent to the exact bay where the restriction applies. If signage is absent, obscured, or placed in a different bay, motorists cannot be reasonably expected to comply with restrictions that are not properly communicated.
Given that no valid signage was displayed in the bay, the restriction was not clearly conveyed, and therefore the alleged contravention cannot be enforced.
I kindly request that you review this evidence and cancel the PCN. Should you require any further information or photographs, I will be happy to provide them.
Thank you for your attention. I look forward to your confirmation that the PCN has been cancelled.
Yours faithfully,
Title: Re: Nehwam council Penge road01a parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours.
Post by: stamfordman on December 11, 2025, 01:56:31 pm
Post a draft here first.

The council's pics don't show your van in relation to the sign. If you were in a bay with a nearest parking sign with no temp traffic order sign then no contravention.

Newham has form in badly using temp traffic orders. I think they should actually cover the parking signs.

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Title: Re: Nehwam council Penge road01a parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours.
Post by: John U.K. on December 11, 2025, 01:55:56 pm
Post your draft reps here for comment before sending but do not miss deadlines.
Title: Re: Nehwam council Penge road01a parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours.
Post by: mr_mo on December 11, 2025, 01:34:02 pm
Thank you for the help i am going to write up and send reps tonight when i get home.
Title: Re: Nehwam council Penge road01a parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours.
Post by: Incandescent on December 09, 2025, 12:16:30 pm
There are two bays here separated by a single yellow line. You have posted a sign with the suspension notice which seems to be the bay past the garage. So if you parked in the bay on the other side of the yellow line, the suspension notice cannot apply. If their intention was to suspend that bay as well, then they should have place a separate suspension sign on the sign for that bay too.

You should therefore submit representations that the sign for the bay in which you parked had no suspension sign on it therefore the PCN is void.
Title: Nehwam council Penge road01a parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours.
Post by: mr_mo on December 09, 2025, 10:26:30 am
Good Morning all I have received a pcn from Newham council but there weren't any signs up where i parked my van the night before I've attached my pictures but right now newham council are yet to upload there ones any help would be appreciated.

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