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Live cases legal advice => Private parking tickets => Topic started by: boxer29 on December 04, 2025, 11:31:23 am
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You can reply with this:
Subject: PCN 3115253251731 – Your improper request for driver details
I am the registered keeper.
Your email is noted and your request that I “confirm the full name and address of the driver” is refused.
There is no legal obligation on a keeper to identify a driver. Your attempt to strong-arm the keeper into naming the driver within 7 days is inappropriate and will not succeed. You already have everything you need to either cancel the charge or issue a rejection with a POPLA verification code.
Accordingly, stop fishing for driver details and now determine the appeal based on the information already provided. If you reject, you must provide a POPLA code without further delay.
For the avoidance of doubt, I will not enter into any correspondence about the driver’s identity. Any further emails repeating this demand will be treated as harassment and evidence of unreasonable conduct.
Yours faithfully,
[Keeper name]
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Got this in email, went to my junk mail though.
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Nobody pays a penny to UKPC if they follow the advice they receive here. Their Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not fully compliant with PoFA 2012 which means that as long as the driver is not identified, they cannot hold the Keeper liable.
Unlike in your narrative, where you have clearly intimated that you, the recipient of the NtK, were the driver. All you must ever do is, as the Keeper, refer to the driver in the third party. No "I did this or that", only "the driver did this or that". You may want toed your opening post!
Np initial appeal will ever be successful so we don't waste much time or effort on it. The aim is to get a POPLA code with the rejection, which is then valid for 33 days and make a more substantive appeal to them, for what it's worth.
Even if POPLA is unsuccessful, you do not pay. Their decision is not binding on you. It will go all the way to a county court claim which we provide the relevant template defence and in due course (9-12+ months) the claim is either struck out or discontinued.
For now, there is no legal obligation on the known keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be made.
The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the known keeper.
Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove anything from it:
I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.
As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. UKPC has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.
The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. UKPC have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
Thanks b789,
i have logged an appeal as a registered keeper of the vehicle to UKPC online portal.
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Nobody pays a penny to UKPC if they follow the advice they receive here. Their Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not fully compliant with PoFA 2012 which means that as long as the driver is not identified, they cannot hold the Keeper liable.
Unlike in your narrative, where you have clearly intimated that you, the recipient of the NtK, were the driver. All you must ever do is, as the Keeper, refer to the driver in the third party. No "I did this or that", only "the driver did this or that". You may want toed your opening post!
Np initial appeal will ever be successful so we don't waste much time or effort on it. The aim is to get a POPLA code with the rejection, which is then valid for 33 days and make a more substantive appeal to them, for what it's worth.
Even if POPLA is unsuccessful, you do not pay. Their decision is not binding on you. It will go all the way to a county court claim which we provide the relevant template defence and in due course (9-12+ months) the claim is either struck out or discontinued.
For now, there is no legal obligation on the known keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be made.
The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the known keeper.
Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove anything from it:
I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.
As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. UKPC has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.
The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. UKPC have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
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Hi,
i got the NTK dated 21.11.25 posted on 24.11.25 While the driver was in Snowhill retail park Wakefield " not parked correctly within the markings of the bay or space." in the pictures my rear tyres are on the boxes.
The driver went to do a return in one of the shops for hardly 10 min, parked in disabled bay with blue badge displayed on dash.
i have been given as the registered keeper 14 days from the date of issue of this parking charge to pay £ 60.
https://maps.app.goo.gl/BtJ3ZaethxL4itb66
https://maps.app.goo.gl/S7BZcKfZQPnr8huX6
The signage is not clear nor in picture or not on the paycharge portal.
(https://i.ibb.co/JRMP5Srk/20251204-110051.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JRMP5Srk)
Thanks