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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: enfieldsteve on December 02, 2025, 04:14:52 pm
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The date of issue of the NTO;
The date of submission of your formal reps and by what means;
The date of issue of the Charge Cert?
This is procedural at present, the circumstances of the PCN are not relevant currently.
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Until we see materials and know what happened after the letter rejecting your formal reps we can't go further with this.
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We went to Soft Play City next door and there were delays with their card payment system and then my son hurt himself straight away so I was distracted. Paid as soon as I realised for comfortably enough time. I believe we parked for 5 hours but I paid for 8. I dont know if I still have the NTO but will check.
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I saw photos of this online too but the PCN was not on my windscreen when I arrived back at my vehicle.
So who is the adjudicator that I can contact potentially?
The NTO will contain details of the adjudication process.
The information you have posted confirms that a parking session was paid for but that this was over 50 minutes after you parked, can you clarify the reason for this delay?
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I saw photos of this online too but the PCN was not on my windscreen when I arrived back at my vehicle.
So who is the adjudicator that I can contact potentially?
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As Stamfordman says, please post the documents.
Your reps of 11th August against the NtO were rejected. So you had only two options after that, (1) pay the PCN, and (2) register an appeal at the adjudicators, but you did neither, you submitted a late second representation and got a Charge Certificate. Councils are not legally liable to accept and consider late representations. Their letter points this out and also does not cancel the CC.
So in submitting a late second representation, you have lost the option to register an appeal at the adjudicators. Having said that, they may accept a late registration.
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I did not get a PCN on my windscreen. The first I knew was getting an NTO to my home.
I appealed on 11th August, that was rejected.
I appealed again on 25th November, that was also rejected.
I now have a letter saying there is a Charge Certificate.
I can provide a copy of the latest letter and the two appeal responses.
I will see if I can find my appeals too, but they were filled out online.
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So you got a windscreen PCN, did not challenge?
And then an NTO, and missed the representation deadline?
And you then got a charge certificate?
We can only check things if you post all the documents, hiding only name and address.
All I can tell is it's not in London.
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/
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Please tell us more about the representations you submitted, because they mention a Notice to Owner that you were too late to respond to. Were those reps submitted against the PCN or the NtO ? Better if you post up the PCN and the NtO and your reps.
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Is there anything I can do to challenge the below PCN. I did pay for parking via the app - in fact, I overpaid for a whole day. But when the PCN was issued I had not paid for parking at that point in time. I did appeal but - This is their response.....
Penalty Charge Notice: WW34441579
Vehicle Registration Mark: LO65OXS
Date & Time of Issue: 02/07/2025 at 10:20
Thank you for your correspondence in respect of the above Penalty Charge Notice (PCN).
I write to advise that your representation made in response to the Notice to Owner was received after the case had escalated to Charge Certificate. I confirm that the Council is not required to take any correspondence into account once it has reached this stage. However, I have reviewed this case.
A condition of use of this car park requires motorists to purchase a parking session at the time the vehicle is parked, which remains valid for the duration of their stay. A contravention occurs if a motorist leaves the car park without making payment.
Our records show that you did purchase a cashless session for your vehicle but that the payment was made at 11:11, which was after the PCN had already been issued.
Furthermore, while we do allow motorists a small window of time in which they can purchase a session after the vehicle was observed, your session was purchased outside of that window. Therefore, I can see no reason to cancel the PCN on this occasion.
You were given the opportunity to challenge the penalty charge, but representation was not received by the date stated on the Notice to Owner. Now that case has gone to Charge Certificate, you have forfeited your right to appeal, and the Charge Certificate has now been issued increasing the penalty charge by 50% to £75.00. Failure to pay the increased amount may result in registration of the debt at the County Court and, ultimately, a warrant being issued to enforcement agents.
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