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Live cases legal advice => Speeding and other criminal offences => Topic started by: artoyebi on December 02, 2025, 11:16:45 am
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For refernce, a speed awareness course and a red light course are separate entities i.e. you can undertake both in the same time period.
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At 1sec into the red it is possible you may be offered an awareness course, so long as you have not attended a similar one within the proceeding 3 years. I'm not sure if that also includes Speed Awareness Courses or not though.
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The probationary period for new drivers only applies after they qualify, if the OP was given the 6 points as a learner, they do not count for revocation - Road Traffic (New Drivers) Act 1995.
That is incorrect. Points gained before the test was passed count towards the total. If an offence committed during the probationary period takes the driver to six or more (including any imposed before the test was passed) that leads to revocation.
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So you won't be getting a disqualification, you will be getting your licence revoked (totally different process). Which will require you retake both parts of the driving test again.
The probationary period for new drivers only applies after they qualify, if the OP was given the 6 points as a learner, they do not count for revocation - Road Traffic (New Drivers) Act 1995.
The Act applies when "the penalty points to be taken into account under section 29 of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988 on that occasion number six or more;"
In the OP's case the relevant points will number nine, so yes, his licence will be revoked.
The points accrued as a learner most definitely do count.
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And also amber means stop (unless it is unsafe to do so).
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May I add that at the time that I reached the light, it was still on amber.
...but clearly red when you passed the stop line.
Have you gone back and checked the timing of the amber phase? It should be 3 seconds +/- 0.25s. If it's within tolerance then you do not appear to have a defence.
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So you won't be getting a disqualification, you will be getting your licence revoked (totally different process). Which will require you retake both parts of the driving test again.
If you accept the inevitable fixed penalty, the DVLA will soon after revoke your licence. You could take it court, plead not guilty and defend the charge, but it seems very unlikely you would be successful based on the compelling evidence. Likewise persuading the court to not endorse your licence or to award you a short driving ban is a very unlikely outcome. Unlikely a solicitor will be able to influence the outcome either.
Can't see any way out of your licence being revoked.
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I got the 6 points before getting my full license.
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Yes, my car is the one to the far right and I am on 6 points in my first 2 years.
What you say makes no sense. Unless you’re going to accumulate 12 points in 3 years you don’t face disqualification. Similarly, as a new driver you face revocation if you hit 6 points - which you say you already have.
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Yes, my car is the one to the far right and I am on 6 points in my first 2 years.
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I assume your car was the one in the far right lane? If so it looks bang to rights, clearly passing the red light (where I assume the line was) on red. The light would have been amber for 3 seconds or so before turning red, which should have been ample time to stop.
So are you currently on 9 points or more?
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Hello,
I really need some advice, I would like to know if I have a fair chance of winning this as I face disqualification if I get any further point.
Also, is it worth hiring a solicitor?
Offence: Drive on road other than motorway, fail comply with red / green arrow / lane closure light signals -
automatic equipment
Date and time: 21/11/2025 at 23:22 hours.
Location: A1 Great North Way j/w Finchley Ln N/B NW4 (7016) seconds.
Recorded time into Red: 1 seconds.
May I add that at the time that I reached the light, it was still on amber.
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