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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: mrchelebi on December 01, 2025, 10:51:34 pm
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@cesur has shared this with me and provided you my details. Please check their website as it usually contains wrong grounds. I say Tribunal time and the NOR is wrong re the representations.
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Dear All,
Happy New Year!
I have appealed to the PCN and they refused my appeal. Please find the response below.
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipO52kJVFzVNRX0urxR74rZetVLkhZh5KnS2WXnDTHOsOGSz4QnXy7Gu2BqyFeMBtA?pli=1&key=ejk5QjBXQzg4YmVHbEk1VUtLYWwyaWxfaWdfbHJ3
Any support is appreciated. What do you suggest as a next step?
Thanks
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Does the "date of service" Vs "date of notice " difference make the PCN invalid @Hippocrates ?
Actually, after having a careful look, this appears to be having the same defect with others where "date of service" was mentioned rather than "date of notice".
I would recommend appealing with below: (copied Hippocrates's message from another topic)
This PCN fails to contain mandatory information at Part 2 Para. 4(8 )(v)
provided at:
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukla/2003/3/section/4/enacted
(v)that, if the penalty charge is not paid before the end of the 28
day period, an increased charge may be payable
This in turn refers to (iii)
(iii)that the penalty charge must be paid before the end of the
period of 28 days beginning with the date of the notice;
The following statement does not clarify this:
If you fail to pay the Penalty Charge or make representations
before the end of a period of 28 days beginning with the date
of service of this notice an increased charge of £240 may be payable.
In light of the above, I ask that the PCN be cancelled.
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Does the "date of service" Vs "date of notice " difference make the PCN invalid @Hippocrates ?
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Is the sign placed to control traffic on a road or simply a familiar one placed on private land?
A so-called yellow box junction placed other than at the junction of roads(and all other qualifying locations) and across opposing lines of traffic might suggest private land.
IMO, challenge on the grounds of sat nav confusion and ask for discretion. But if they're not minded to do this then require proof in the form of a copy of their highway register to prove that the location is classified as a 'road' which may be subject to the 'No entry to vehicular traffic' sign.
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Because the road is both way afterwards.
Please explain. Last GSV view shows No Entry signs; we need to know what is there now, if you say it is now timed.
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No no. SatNav diverted me to enter the car park next to the Sainsbury's. If I could drive left and enter the car park in front of the Sainsbury's, I should be OK. But, I had to stay whole day and therefore I drove towards the car park next to the station (Parking location ID 801 633). I guess I violated only a few meters. Because the road is both way afterwards.
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But Incandescent's point was that the video shows you driving straight past the entrance and away from that car park, which rather contradicts your point that you were rushing to park your car in it...
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No. The one next to the station. Parking location ID 801 633
I added screenshot of the car parking entrance in the evidence folder.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/VdvprxWKnbY29Va36
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I parked the other one where I can stay longer duration.
This one? - https://maps.app.goo.gl/equ3ZuwbxTdWSYXU6 (https://maps.app.goo.gl/equ3ZuwbxTdWSYXU6)
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Thanks. There are multiple car parks there. The one next to the Sainsbury's has time limit. I parked the other one where I can stay longer duration.
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Well it is certainly a long-standing restriction, and from the GSV views, the traditional No Entry sign is used, although that may not be the sign that is there now, (possibly Flying Motorbike signs instead). However although the contravention seems made out, the plain fact is that the video doesn't show your car passing the signs, being taken from Kenley Road. Whether this would be enough to get the PCN cancelled at London Tribunals is another matter. The council will, of course, reject your reps, as they do >95% of them, because they know from experience that most people then just cough-up.
However, notwithstanding the above, you say "I was rushing to park the car, catch tube to go for a meeting", but the video shows you leaving the car park area and moving onto Kenley Road !
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It was a both way road before.
It has been 'No Entry' for at least 17 years - see this Google Street View from 2015 (LINK (https://maps.app.goo.gl/zZceK9W7jNoVJvU5A)), and this one from 2008 (LINK (https://maps.app.goo.gl/iEFkJMpNmTPmZ6Qn6)) both showing 'No Entry' signs/markings.
The experts will no doubt be along soon to advise on any avenues of challenge.
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Hi all,
I got a PCN from London Borough od Merton.
Contravention Code: "51J Failing to Comply with a no entry restriction"
PCN Address: PEEL HOUSE SERVICE ROAD JW KENLEY ROAD MORDEN
Sharing letter and evidence below: https://photos.app.goo.gl/VdvprxWKnbY29Va36
It is next to the Morden tube station car park. I was rushing to park the car, catch tube to go for a meeting.
Can anyone hint how this can be appealed, any satisfactory grounds?
Thanks