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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: lordhowdy on December 01, 2025, 02:13:33 pm
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As I understand it from your account, you seem to be outside prescribed procedure. You might decide to contact bailiffadviceonline as suggested.
If enforcement agents are pursuing you for a debt then IMO your first and only recourse procedurally is to apply to TEC to submit a statutory declaration(SD) out of time(OOT) as to why the Order for Recovery and Charge Certificate in each case should be revoked/cancelled. Once registered this stays further enforcement action.
TEC would either accept your submission or not. TfL would be invited to comment on your application. If TEC refused your application then your option is to request a review in front of a judge(whether on the papers or at a personal hearing) to CHALLENGE the court officer's decision. You cannot seek a review by a judge until you've made an unsuccessful OOT application.
Frankly, if the circumstances of each challenge(and the underlying SD grounds) are the same then IMO you only need to test the judge with one. I see no reason not to summarise your position within a single review, but whether this would be considered formal consolidation I don't know.
So:
Have you paid Marstons and if so has the debt in full in each case been settled?
Did you submit OOT applications for any or all Orders for Recovery?
What ground did you claim in each case? *
When did you receive TECs refusal notice(s)? **
*- you can only claim one.
**- procedurally your are time-limited as regards requesting a review although a judge may allow a longer period.
https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/ruc/understanding-enforcement-process#sd
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You have got into a mess with this owing to an address change so whoever received the PCNs - the hire firm probably - had a wrong address. We see this when people hire vans to move house and their old address is on the hire form.
I don't think a judge review will help.
I and expect others will urge you to contact our trusted bailiff advice firm to see if anything can be done at this stage:
https://bailiffadviceonline.co.uk
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Hi all, I had a hire vehicle when my car got driven into given by the insurance company, gave it back, moved house from wembley to grenwich. i have an electric car normally and autopay setup for congestion. i paid the congestions manually for this hire car, apparently i missed 8 it seems (i drive into london every day for work), marston turned up regarding it and another thing, paid an amount for them to go away so i could deal with these otherwise it's about £4,500 for these 8. filled in the forms and sent to the tec, I asked their colleague, and they said send in the completed forms, a cover letter, request that it is dealt with as 1 case to not waste the courts time with 8 for the same thing, same month, same car, same person. I had researched this and they confirmed this should happen. I did so, they said give it 4-6 weeks for it to work through the system then once this is looked at and approved i can pay one fee to have one court date to challenge all 8 so i can pay off the tickets (not the 4.5k with marston), I did.
They sent it back saying you didn't pay the fee so it's all refused. I spoke to them again, they said send in a completed form requesting one ticket to go to court, then call and pay the fee 4-6 weeks later but add a document with your request for all 8. today is the day I called to pay this one fee for this court date to hopefully fix everything. the person I spoke to said 'no matter what the court will never dealt with more than one pcn in a court hearing, I said surely it's an enourmous waste of the courts time to have a judge having his day filled with 1 person 8 times for the same thing? say basically gave me an answer which eluded to 'I've told you once, you're wasting my time if i have to repeat it again'.
I have paid the court today for the 'challenge in court and attend yourself' for this single one out of the 8 "LP0165530 00" but can anyone help with how to move forward with this?
the TEC are telling me two different things
the internet says that consolodating tickets of the exact same thing on different dates is a standard thing in the right circumstances.
paying £2,900 to spend all day in court compared to £4,500 with marston (who currently are not chasing me) seems awful.
ideally I want to go to court, be told i can pay the original congestion penalties with tfl at the original price (i have a number of receipts for congestion charge i paid for it and so am not certain they are all valid pcn's for it but I just want it gone without bancrupting me)
As I'm now being told conflicting information from the TEC I'm needing a little help if anyone knows the best way to proceed I'd be really grateful for some help.
Thanks in advance,
Si
(this is the cover letter to the tec which includes the pcn's for congestionI already sent because it has information in it).
"Mr Simon Beecham
xxxxxxxxxx
Parkside Avenue
London
SE10 8FN
Tel: 07543 7xxxx
Email: simonbeecham@gmail.com
Traffic Enforcement Centre
St Katharine’s House
21–27 St Katharine’s Street
Northampton
NN1 2LH
19 August 2025
Dear Sir/Madam,
Re: Applications under N244 – Request for Consolidation of PCNs (Hire Vehicle DN72 XJT)
I am submitting eight N244 applications in relation to the following Congestion Charge PCNs issued by Transport for London:
• LP0093400 30
• LP0126322 00
• LP0159535 50
• LP0116014 80
• LP0098198 70
• LP0154446 70
• LP0165530 00
• LP0078797 30
Why consolidation is requested
All of these PCNs are for the congestion charge and relate to the same hire vehicle (DN72 XJT), which I was driving while my own car was being repaired. They were issued within a short, one-month period and all arise from the same situation.
Background
This was an oversight rather than an attempt to avoid payment. I usually have Autopay on my own vehicle and expected the hire car to be needed only briefly. When repairs took longer, I failed to set up Autopay for the hire car.
I did pay for some Congestion Charge days during this period, so I am unsure whether all eight PCNs are valid. Soon after returning the hire vehicle, I moved home. Although I updated my driving licence address immediately, I could not amend the V5C as it was in the hire company’s name. As a result, I did not receive the notices in time.
Medical circumstances
I am currently under NHS care for a brain tumour and undergoing neurological investigations. This has been an extremely stressful and overwhelming time. My doctors have advised me to limit unnecessary strain, but managing eight separate PCNs individually has become unmanageable. I enclose medical evidence in support.
Financial circumstances
On top of my health issues, the last year has been financially very challenging. Business has been quieter than usual and my income has reduced, which has made it much harder to manage everyday bills and expenses. While I am doing my best to keep everything afloat, having to deal with eight separate applications and the additional costs this would bring would place me under unnecessary pressure at a time when things are already difficult.
Resolution
I am not trying to avoid responsibility; I only wish to resolve this fairly and practically. I am willing to pay the original Congestion Charges, the initial fines, or whatever the Court considers fair.
As I do not have cheque facilities, please contact me directly on 07543 713433 to arrange card payment of the application fee(s).
In summary, I respectfully ask the Court to:
1. Allow me to proceed out of time.
2. Consolidate the eight PCNs into one case, as they all relate to the same hire vehicle in the same one-month period.
3. Permit resolution on a fair basis, as directed by the Court.
Thank you for your time and understanding during what is a very difficult period for me.
Yours faithfully,
Simon Beecham
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