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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Amr76 on November 28, 2025, 02:08:36 pm
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Just copy and paste the link in my first link. Check the wording with yours and send it. Croydon won't understand it either -one of their officers was sideways moved from RBK and she did not even understand Bus Lane law dates. I publicly called for her resignation as per one/two of Tommy Poirot's videos.
PM received and contents accepted.
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Thank you Hippocrates - no worries at all.
Hippocrates suggested looking at the first thread in his profile to be able to successfully appeal this PCN on a technical point. I'm afraid I wasn't able to understand it and after exchanging DMs still wasn't. He said though that not many people understand this technicality. If anyone else can explain how to draft an appeal that could successfully get this PCN revoked, either using this technicality or something else, I'd be grateful.
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@Amr76 My advice is and has been clear. If you want to part with £80 without sending in a representation as suggested, then you will join The Mugged Club.
Good luck to you. I am out of this thread and have much bigger fish to fry at present.
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Ta. So I would use my first link as a collateral challenge.
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Hello Hippocrates.
Here's the reverse of the PCN
https://imgpile.com/p/gZVhc3m#rxhaXtq
and here's what appears on their website
https://imgpile.com/p/gZVhc3m#tVjxAL9
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I saw the video. Clear contravention. But I have a technical appeal.
Homework first for you: go to their website and try and enter any of the 5 statutory grounds , screenshot and report back with the results. You will find these on the page you have not shown us!
Then: look at the first link in my profile and compare with the wording on your PCN.
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Hello,
On Wednesday 12 November I was about to drive through an area of Addiscombe Road which is restricted to buses and trams only between 4 and 7 pm. The time was 4:10 pm and as soon as I got to the restricted area, I realised I couldn't go through at the time and did a U-turn. Unfortunately a camera snapped me and I got a PCN (link below)
https://imgpile.com/p/WxSEEl2#CijndYO
The video accompanying the PCN is only 17 seconds long and doesn't show me doing the U-turn, but you can see me braking (brake lights are visible) and coming to a stop to do the U-turn.
I only slightly entered the restricted area (could I argue de minimis perhaps?) and the whole reason for this restriction is to stop cars entering the main part of Addiscombe road from the tramway - something I didn't do. I really think the council should have provided the whole video of the U-turn - they probably have it.
In addition I went back to the area and took several photos. There are two signs warning of the restricted area before you get to it. However, the first and clearest sign would not have been visible to me, because it's behind the building I started my journey from.
Here is the first sign:
https://imgpile.com/p/WxSEEl2#cm9vGFI
Here is where I started my journey:
https://imgpile.com/p/WxSEEl2#zpyuMJ0
Then there is a second sign, but it's raised up and not as clear as the first:
https://imgpile.com/p/WxSEEl2#FaGHYwp
Finally this is the sign at the beginning of the restricted area:
https://imgpile.com/p/WxSEEl2#PBedoiK
I would be grateful for any advice about this - I hope I can appeal based mainly on the fact that I U-turned when I could and that one sign wasn't visible to me.
However, also worried about the fact that Croydon Council don't even read appeals and automatically reject them.