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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: NTIAEP on November 24, 2025, 04:46:53 pm

Title: Re: Redbridge / 47j-Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand / High St E11
Post by: NTIAEP on December 08, 2025, 03:54:29 pm

LBR rejected my initial reps (see NoR here (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/vf6pyljrduixhd9arrcyz/20251201_MF17VHY_PCN-AF58323903_High-St-Wanstead-Bus-Stop_20250924_NOR-redacted.pdf?rlkey=nfadk0mlz62n8zsevgcdbd1a4&st=y6qp4leu&dl=0))

As foreseen above, off to tribunal we go....again!  Might as well pitch a virtual tent within their meeting rooms. ;D

Unless advised to the contrary, can't also use @Hippocrates argument (see here (https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg86653/#msg86653)) as that pertains to PCNs issued under the 'London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2003', whereas this PCN was issued under 'Traffic Management Act 2004' and doesn't contain the same language.  Whether or not it should is another matter.

Title: Re: Redbridge / 47j-Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand / High St E11
Post by: NTIAEP on November 24, 2025, 06:28:12 pm

True…and fair enough. But then again, we are talking about Redbridge and I have successfully used the later reps on a prior occasion to have the PCN cancelled, rather than having to go to tribunal.

Cheers.

Title: Re: Redbridge / 47j-Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand / High St E11
Post by: stamfordman on November 24, 2025, 05:28:37 pm

In short you were driving and mistook the bus stop for a traffic lane and stopped only in traffic. 

You didn't need to say much more than that.

Title: Redbridge / 47j-Stopped on a restricted bus stop or stand / High St E11
Post by: NTIAEP on November 24, 2025, 04:46:53 pm

Afternoon All

Shall not beat around the bush....

FYI:

PCN (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/kwpsrkq20sj2ubzbtt7a1/20251113_MF17VHY_PCN-AF58323903_High-St-Wanstead-Bus-Stop_20250924_redacted.pdf?rlkey=d3ibobwye1jl7w4pxi0jxo88e&st=hda7slhl&dl=0)

CCTV footage (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/kq4svvljn2x9fiw9bufn8/AF58323903_video.mp4?rlkey=pz97k4t34r5cxdemklwflwxzz&st=a3mmup3x&dl=0)

GSV (https://maps.app.goo.gl/hSTvnJgG7uGSNADr5)

Reps (already submitted) (https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0dddaxqxt882jnexh7hw0/20251123_MF17VHY_PCN-AF58323903_Representations_redacted.pdf?rlkey=x81d89gf3k659zwuukh6sbdo8&st=gesanhuo&dl=0)

Let's see how Redbridge council respond.  If its a [img width=22.98828125 height=22.98828125]https://emoji.tapatalk-cdn.com/emoji107.png[/img] then off to tribunal.....again!

Thoughts/opinions welcome in the interim.


Regards - NTIAEP