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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: LongTimeLurker on November 22, 2025, 09:18:30 pm
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You understand it correctly. Regulation 3(1)(c) specifically states that the PCN recipient must respond to a Notice to Owner even if informal reps have already been submitted
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No reason of relevance for the delay in returning.
Thank you for the information. On the rear of the PCN it does state that
"making an informal challenge does not prevent the owner from making formal representations upon receipt of the Notice to Owner"
and also in reference to the NtO
"The owner can either pay or make representations and may appeal to an independent adjudicator if their representations are rejected. The NtO will contain instructions on how to do this".
Am I understanding correctly that they should have stated that representations MUST be made to the enforcement agency as directed in the NtO if received, as any informal representations would then be irrelevant? (e.g. if I were to submit an informal appeal after the NtO were generated but prior to reaching me, I would never have an appeal considered?)
If that is the case, would you consider the below be a suitable appeal?
Good afternoon,
The issued PCN does not contain the required statutory information as per The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Representations and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022 - Regulation 3(1)(c) and therefore does not confirm with rules required for a PCN to be valid.
I therefore reject the validity of this PCN and require confirmation that you have deemed it void.
Apologies for the extra questions, just ensuring I am fully understanding this before submitting anything.
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The PCN does not contain mandatory PCN content information as per the The Civil Enforcement of Road Traffic Contraventions (Representations and Appeals) (England) Regulations 2022 namely Regulation 3(1)(c)
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2022/9780348232752/part/2/chapter/1
This is an important item of information, because poeple have submitted representations against the paper PCN found on their car, and when a Notice to Owner arrives by post, have not re-submitted those reps, because they had had no response to them when the PCN arrived. This clause therefore warns the PCN recipient that even if reps have been submitted, they must be resubmitted if an NtO is served. If they aren't the recipient loses any futher appeal options, so omitting it is a serious procedural impropriety.
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The CEO will have notes of first observation and possibly valve positions.
At 12:13 you got 30 mins plus 10 mins grace = 12:53 so it looks like the PCN was correctly issued at 12:57.
Why were you late getting back to car?
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Hi all,
Thank you for taking the time to read, and offer input if you do so.
My vehicle received a PCN on Millers Road in Warwick, for allegedly staying longer than permitted.
Signs state:
8am-8pm
Permit holders only
Or
30 mins no return within 1 hour
https://maps.app.goo.gl/LXNN2Ve1DUA4bYFx7
The PCN was received between these hours, stating it was observed between 12:13 and 12:57, however all provided evidence is timestamped as 12:57, there is nothing to indicate that the vehicle had been present for longer than allowed.
https://imgpile.com/p/AGPFE3R
Many thanks