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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: neeldev on November 21, 2025, 01:04:39 am

Title: Re: Bus Lane Fine cambridge
Post by: Phantomcrusader on November 21, 2025, 07:47:25 pm
There is no bus lane signage in place. The only signs placed are signs conveying a route restricted to certain vehicles. In this case the signs convey that the route is restricted for use by buses, pedal cycles and taxis only. Contravening this sign is, according to  (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6294ddfa8fa8f5039a1bd695/annex-a-traffic-signs-subject-to-moving-traffic_enforcement.pdf)Govt guidance (https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6294ddfa8fa8f5039a1bd695/annex-a-traffic-signs-subject-to-moving-traffic_enforcement.pdf), a moving traffic contravention and not a bus lane contravention. Therefore the appropriate contravention description is Code 33 - Using a route restricted to certain vehicles. You can use the text below in your formal reps but also wait to see if others offer other angles of attack.

The Statutory Guidance for Local Authorities Outside London on Civil Enforcement of Bus Lane and Moving Traffic Contraventions issued by the Secretary by State for Transport does under Annex A, advise that the round blue sign is a traffic sign conveying a moving traffic contravention. The Council has wrongly accused me of a bus lane contravention. The correct description for contravening the sign is code 33 "using a route restricted to certain vehicles"
As demonstrated by the aforementioned Annex A, the wrong contravention description is stated on the PCN and for this it should be cancelled. Should the Council not agree with this point of law, I require the Council to give full reasoning for any rejection with counter arguments directing me to the law that the Council rely upon for their rejection and for dismissing the guidance issued by the Secretary of State.

I suggest you also point out that the PCN is missing the statutory ground of appeal below which also merits cancellation of the penalty under the ground of procedural impropriety.

(i)the enforcement notice should not have been served because—


(i)the penalty charge has already been paid in full, or

(ii)the penalty charge has been paid, reduced by the amount of any discount set in accordance with Schedule 9 to the TMA 2004, by the applicable date as specified in paragraph 1(3) of Schedule 3 to the 2022 General Regulations.
Title: Re: Bus Lane Fine cambridge
Post by: Incandescent on November 21, 2025, 06:42:13 pm
https://maps.app.goo.gl/7kPFyp5CqB6Xqo9dA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/4Gy88aBQXa2xAgZX7

If I were to submit a reps on what grounds, and what would I say?
I see now how I missed it; it's halfway down Regent St, not at each end of it !

All you need to is tell them what you've told us in your opening text. They'll no doubt refuse them. Are you a student in Cambridge, or a visitor ? If a visitor, emphasise your unfamiliarity with the streets and their various restrictions.
Title: Re: Bus Lane Fine cambridge
Post by: neeldev on November 21, 2025, 06:07:29 pm
https://maps.app.goo.gl/7kPFyp5CqB6Xqo9dA
https://maps.app.goo.gl/4Gy88aBQXa2xAgZX7

If I were to submit a reps on what grounds, and what would I say?

Title: Re: Bus Lane Fine cambridge
Post by: Incandescent on November 21, 2025, 05:22:20 pm
Can you post a  GSV link that gives those views, because I couldn't find anything when I last looked.

Your photos show clear restriction signs that presumbly you ignored and just drove past, plus an advance sign indicating the restriction ahead, which again, you would seem to have missed. Frankly you seem to have no grounds against the contravention itself as far as I can see. However, we encourage OPs to submit reps because sometimes the council shoot themselves in the foot in their reply, giving solid grounds based on mismanagement of the enforcement process.
Title: Re: Bus Lane Fine cambridge
Post by: neeldev on November 21, 2025, 03:05:19 pm
Hi,

I've had a look at Google Maps and added the signs that I can see.
Title: Re: Bus Lane Fine cambridge
Post by: Incandescent on November 21, 2025, 10:00:37 am
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"...and just followed Google Maps."
Oh dear, how often do we see this on this forum ! 

Never, ever, just rely on a satnav when driving in cities, especially those that are pathologically anti-motorist like Cambridge. you've just got to be alert for signs indicating a restriction.  A brief look on the latest GSV dated Oct 2024` doesn't show any restriction so this is fairly new. So if you want advice on challenging, you need to do some leg work with a camera and post the results here. You'd be looking for an advance sign on your approach, plus the actual restriction signs at the start of Regent Street that you drove into.
Title: Bus Lane Fine cambridge
Post by: neeldev on November 21, 2025, 01:04:39 am
Hi,

I got a fine for driving in a bus lane in Cambridge. I must not have seen the sign and just followed Google Maps. Is there any way I could appeal this, as I am a student and don't really have much extra money to pay the fine

I have attached the letter I received.

Would appreciate any advice on this can appeal

https://imgpile.com/p/DmoaazX