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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Shezza on November 20, 2025, 08:56:34 pm

Title: Re: 2 x PCNs from Havering Council Code 33c using a route restricted to certain vehicles
Post by: John Doe Man on November 21, 2025, 01:53:33 pm

For the purpose of clarity did the OP mean Queens Hospital in Romford, Havering as it replaced Oldchurch Hospital which closed in 2006.

Title: Re: 2 x PCNs from Havering Council Code 33c
Post by: Incandescent on November 20, 2025, 09:53:22 pm

Havering, to their everlasting shame, do not re-offer the discount when rejecting representations, even those submitted within the discount period, so no, you would not be able to pay at the discounted rate.

Anyway, read this and update your thread accordingly: -
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

We may be able to find a winning argument to present to an adjudicator if you do decide to submit representations. By not re-offering the discount, Havering have made it a complete no-brainer for PCN appellants to take them all the way to the adjudicators in London Tribunals.The penalty remains the same and there are no additional costs.

Title: 2 x PCNs from Havering Council Code 33c using a route restricted to certain vehicles
Post by: Shezza on November 20, 2025, 08:56:34 pm

Hi,
I went to pick up my niece from Old Church Hospital a week after she had a spinal op, we was told to pick her up from the discharge container which is around the back, never having been to this pick up point before or even knowing it was there, we missed the turning (it was dark and when we looked down the road, we see all the ambulances parked up so presumed it was not that one), once missed we had no other option but to continue into what I have just found out (never realised at the time) was into the bus and cycle section, the turning we should of taken was just before it with no room to turn around once missed,  as soon as i entered the bus and cycle entrance I was able to turn around. I have now received 2 PCN notices, the first one showing me entering at 16.40pm and the second PCN of me leaving it at 16.41.

I have a reduced charge of 80.00 each, i received the letter today 20/11/25 but the letter is dated 14/11/25.

Although i think it is unfair to have this bus section right by the road we missed we had no other option but to carry on.

Does anyone know if i could make a representation on  of the 16.41 PCN due already being charged for it on the 16.40PCN, if i did do a representation and loose, would i still be able to pay the discount price

Thank you for any advice.