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Live cases legal advice => Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) => Topic started by: Dave1UK on November 20, 2025, 09:29:02 am

Title: Re: Harrow Council, 24 Not Parked Correctly Within The Markings Of The Bay Or Space, Pinner Rd HA2 6EF
Post by: Incandescent on November 20, 2025, 12:18:32 pm
Usually a PCN served to the car says the discount will be reoffered if a challenge to it is rejected. This is normal for most councils,  except Havering who have decided, against the statutory guidance by the way, to not re-offer the discount in any circumstances.
Title: Re: Harrow Council, 24 Not Parked Correctly Within The Markings Of The Bay Or Space, Pinner Rd HA2 6EF
Post by: Dave1UK on November 20, 2025, 12:11:03 pm
Go onto their website and see if there are any council photos. Yours are no good as they don't show the full car position in relation to the carriageway markings. I can't look on theiir website because the PCN is almost unreadable for PCN Number and car registration. If you post them here we can all go and look.

Apologies, edited my post with the reg as realised a lot of glare on the ticket. Also another member helpfully posted the photos.

It's a contravention because wheels are in the other bay.

These can sometimes be challenged on lack of traffic order and some adjudicators consider lack of signage all a factor.

(https://i.ibb.co/PGQnT62W/h4.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/dw4q4bFt/h3.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/rfQXbStC/h2.jpg)

If I was to make an appeal does the clock stop on the ticket? Thereafter once a response is received I have X number of days to still pay the fine at the lowered rate? Just wondering whether this is still the case for tickets or does an appeal aromatically thereafter result in only the option to pay the full price?
Title: Re: Harrow Council, 24 Not Parked Correctly Within The Markings Of The Bay Or Space, Pinner Rd HA2 6EF
Post by: stamfordman on November 20, 2025, 10:29:27 am
It's a contravention because wheels are in the other bay.

These can sometimes be challenged on lack of traffic order and some adjudicators consider lack of signage all a factor.

(https://i.ibb.co/PGQnT62W/h4.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/dw4q4bFt/h3.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/rfQXbStC/h2.jpg)
Title: Re: Harrow Council, 24 Not Parked Correctly Within The Markings Of The Bay Or Space, Pinner Rd HA2 6EF
Post by: Incandescent on November 20, 2025, 10:22:14 am
Go onto their website and see if there are any council photos. Yours are no good as they don't show the full car position in relation to the carriageway markings. I can't look on theiir website because the PCN is almost unreadable for PCN Number and car registration. If you post them here we can all go and look.
Title: Harrow Council, 24 Not Parked Correctly Within The Markings Of The Bay Or Space, Pinner Rd HA2 6EF
Post by: Dave1UK on November 20, 2025, 09:29:02 am
I parked up, got out of the car, I saw a disabled bay in front and also a drop kerb (assumed this was for access i.e. wheelchair or whatnot). I therefore thought I was being considerate so I reversed a bit to allow more room and also so my vehicle isn't potentially accidently damaged. I purchased a ticket via phone app for an hour, went to pick up something from a shop down the road, got back to seeing a ticket on my windscreen. Totally perplexed, checked my parking time, still had 15 minutes remaining, checked that I entered the correct location code, it was correct. Opened up the ticket and felt what an absolute joke. Was slightly relieved that the fine if paid within 14 days is only £45.00 and not the general £80.00/£90.00 you come across? Regardless still a substantial amount for trying to be considerate?

Seems unreasonable, a wheel access disabled driver in front in the disabled bay may require a bit more room. Some cars equipped for wheelchair access via the rear have stickers stating please leave X meters for access.

PCN Ticket:

https://ibb.co/JRcHJ6LT

*Reg is LT64 UFW as a bit unreadable.

Photos I Took Of My Car:

https://ibb.co/G3BjTR2p
https://ibb.co/HfK5tPZV

Street View:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Z2qKLiFYyX2bwyNy9